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School Discipline
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Discussion Started: 11-09-2005, 10:27 AM
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During the school day, children are entrusted to other adults. When it comes to disciplinary measures, what is appropriate? What courses of action are age-appropriate? What are your thoughts on physical discipline? And if a child is wrongly accused, what measures should be taken to remedy the situation?
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blb123
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09-07-2006, 4:40 PM
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Children are wrongly accused in schools all the time! and the principal doesn't even look into the situation. if the principle thinks you commited the offence, then even if you truely are innocent, you will get punnished. it's a shame we don't give our children a chance to speak for themselves.
Brianna
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mommcares
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09-03-2006, 8:50 AM
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Discipline starts at home. With this said it is important to remember that discipline starts at home. Society can do nothing unless the family unit does their job, which leads us back to the origination of the responsibility of disciplining children; the home.
If a mother and father successfully prepare a child by using measures of discipline at home, we basically do not have a problem.
This leads to our next point: Discipline starts at home.
Get my drift?
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WorkingDog23
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03-27-2006, 7:33 PM
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Discipline, ha it?s a joke now a days. IT just seems like people don't discipline there kids at all yet the same people expect to send there kids to school, day care or any place else and think there going to come home with every thing they need in life? I think before we start talking about discipline in schools we need to start doing it in the home, I mean come on people wake up. Frankly I don't care what method you use as long as it works, now I am not talking about doing anything to harm the child, but hay a good swift smack on the butt never hurt any kid. And to put it all out there. If you did maybe the rest of us could eat, shop or go to movies in PEACE! (To the parents who do, Thanks)
As always -Love.peace,& Hope
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coalcenter
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12-17-2005, 5:56 PM
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Does anyone realize that her PARENTS gave their approval for this to happen?? No, of course not. It's all the school's fault.
As far as discipline goes, these teachers have to put up with our kids on a daily basis....these days kids have little to no respect for authority figures because their parents tell them they are "perfect" as they are and that they can do no wrong....these teachers, principals, etc...need to be able to do their job without FEAR of parents coming to the school in a rage because their child was treated unfairly.
Back in the day, when it was ok to spank the kid, we didn't do so much damage....now look at it....we have to have METAL DETECTORS in school....c'mon people, did you really have it so bad when you were young just because you were AFRAID of getting into trouble?
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Chele16
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12-11-2005, 8:16 AM
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Hmmm, so sad. What most teachers are losing sight of is the need for a child's esteem to be nurtured and developed. We (as teachers) spend more time with most children than their parents. I realized this when I sent my daughter on her way the first day of first grade. Thank goodness we have wonderful teachers and administration in our district. Back to the topic at hand -- a good administrator puts out fires; he or she does not ADD the fuel. There is the need for discipline -- without a doubt. I teach those who have had no discipline or rebelled against the discipline that was placed upon them. It is strange that by the time they sit before me "all hope is lost"; yet I have a 99.9% success rate with these kids (receiving their high school diploma or making significant academic progress). I believe it is because when they sit across from me I look into their eyes, see them for who they are, and LISTEN to what they have to say. These are the kids that have been lost in the shuffle of the regular classroom. Fellow teachers you know what I'm talking about. I encourage when they are discouraged. I cheer when they "get it". When they enter my room, they see my smiling face (regardless of my day) and they smile. This poor little girl who was embarrassed will NEVER forget that day or the folks that did this to her, and regardless of the support that she has she will be forever affected by it. I would make just one suggestion to those teaching in the regular classroom. Those at the elementary level are with the same children for at least 6 hours a day. You may be that child's only source of relief; you may be that child's only cheerleader; you may be that child's only example. It all begins at the elementary level. Please be your students' largest source of encouragement -- especially for those who are labeled as "the troubled ones". YOU may be the one who is the turning point in his/her education. (education being all inclusive)
Blessings, Chele
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melgoodnes
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11-17-2005, 10:00 AM
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Absolutely disgusting. This woman should never have a job dealing with children ever again, and I would love to see some sort of criminal charges or at least a civil suit. Since when do we declare someone guilty without any evidence nor investigation?
Even if the child stole the money, it's not up to the principal to declare a punishment of public humiliation. If the parents wanted to make the child apologize publically, that's fine, but the principal has no right to do that.
The "funniest" part of the story? When numerous parents showed up to the school board meeting to be heard on this subject, the reply from School Board President Lowell Meek was that he "could not discuss personnel issues." The principal has her privacy rights protected even though she IS guilty, but this little girl was afforded no such luxury.
Our tax dollars at work. People - If you love your children, do anything and everything you can to get them into a private school of some sort or home school them. Vote for politicians that will push for school vouchers.
-mel
"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin 1755
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50thisyear
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11-16-2005, 1:19 PM
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I think that because teachers and principles are making too much money, they are letting that power go to their heads. What business is it of the principal or teacher of a school to discipline an 8 year old if she stole money from another child? Why weren't the parents contacted before the school decided to take the matter into their own hands? That principal is sick and should be fired. A little 8 year old has many years left of attending school- what child would want to go to school the next day after that? I think her actions defeated the no child left behind and was totally wrong. Any discipline rendered in elementary school must be discussed with the parents first because children at that age have a long way to go before they graduate.
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rmhartman
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11-14-2005, 6:15 PM
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Whether or not it was appropriate for the pricipal to take the girl to each class and announce she was a thief, it was done.
Since the accuser recanted, we discover that the girl was /innocent/. It is only appropriate that the principal walk the girl to each class she was accused in and apologize to her, in each class.
-rmh
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Krakus
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11-14-2005, 10:14 AM
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jlt1710's approach is at least a bit more temperate and reasonable than the majority of extreme retributions recommended for the principal in question. Her behavior was reprehensible, and I would have added a lengthy suspension without pay (min. 6 mos) and/or demotion to a public apology in front of the same students befoe which the child was humiliated.
I do take umbrage at jlt1710's suggestion that liberalism was the root cause; this behavior is more in line with a conservative, the-sinner-must-be-punished approach of the unthinking fundamentalist than a liberal. That and the fact today's parents have abandoned any exercise of discipline or the teaching of personal responsibility, forcing the schools to take it up in the attempt to preserve a functional educational climate, and proving that not only do they lack the skills to teach these values as well, but more importantly, it should never be there place to do so in the first place! Next thing you know, we'll see people trying to teach re-packaged creationism in our science classrooms, eh?
Respectfully, Krakus
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momof396
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11-13-2005, 4:26 PM
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I feel sorry for the kids that this pricipal still has her job if she had any experience with children or if she ever had a child psychology class she would know that what she did was not punishment.The kids that take guns to school and shoot people usually are the kids with few friends and low self esteem.So her doing this to this child humilating her and making kids make fun of her and not wanting to be her friend will just make her want to act out and get into trouble more.This pricipal needs to take some education classes she was the creme of the crop but had no education experience?What a bunch of bull
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