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Tighter Security At Schools?
T O P I C Discussion Started: 10-19-2006, 3:41 PM Add to the Discussion
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Do you think tighter security is needed at Central Florida schools?

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xtina_rocz 04-17-2007, 2:14 AM Add to the Discussion
well i am a student at university high school.when i was in 9th grade i went to summer school with michael we were in the same class. we became really close michael was one of my really close friends i loved him dearly.when we both started our shophmore year we were still friends always talk to eachother everyday walk to class together.now as i walk down those halls it isnt the same anymore im not use to not seeing those bright green eyes and that big smile of his that always cheered everyone up he didnt have to say a word all he had to do was look at you and smile.i never relized how a person could have so much rage and anger in them to take a innocent life away. michael is missed everyday dearly he was love by soo many and still is till this day and now missed by tons. michael will never go to prom never graduate never walk down those halls again michael will never be able to make me laugh when i am down ever again. michael will never be able to start a family have children or get married all cause a stupid fight. all cause of a kid who was 17 who pulled an act of a child an act that can never be taken back a life that can never be broughten back.theres his family his mother,his father,his sister,and the rest of his ENTIRE family that cry's till this day cause a good child an innocent,harmless,great friend,teriffic son,awsome cousin's life was take cause of something soo stupid that in the end it wasnt even worth it. NOTHING is ever worth it. a life was taken and there is a boy a cowerd sitting in jail possibly prison cause he made a foolish descion over a girl cause he wanted to be hard well he killed one of my bestfriends and he can never take that back no matter how many sorry's he say's but in the end i wonder dose kelvin ever think to him self was it worth it to start it in the begining over a girl who isnt even with you. justice will be served. kelvin will get what he deserves. MICHAEL'S LAW.... [R.I.P MICHAEL NIEVES 10.19.06][AN ANGEL WHO WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN][SEE YOU AT THE CROSSROADS]

shai45 01-24-2007, 7:26 PM Add to the Discussion
Well honestly i don't think it really matters what they do...no matter what someone always is going to find a way to sneak it in.I'm only 15 and i go to Colonial High school and when i found that one of my good,wonderful friends from middle was stab and killed all i could really do was drop to the floor and cry.It was like my whole world went crashing down.I never been in a situation like this and it still hurts knowing that one of your friends that you truely love isn't gonna be there anymore....and all i really have of him now is picz. and wonderful memorys and knowing that now he watching over all of us....yea,they try and do their best to prevent this and something similar like happening again..and please do try...i don't wanna wake and hear that one of my friends died again...it just hurts...Well that was some what of my opinon and how i felt...But please do try....God Bless everyone and take care......X:_10-19-06_MICHAEL NIEVES_R.I.P_:X

WE LOVE AND MISS YOU BABY BOY..ALWAYZ AND WILL BE IN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS

Kindest Regards,Shai

hobbithead 11-20-2006, 5:38 PM Add to the Discussion
I happen to still be in high school. I have to admit that the one month or so when there was the school shootings and acts of school violence were very scary for me. We even had a bomb threat at my school. I believe that school security should be raised in some manner. We do have school cops but that doesn't stop the violence. There have been a fight or two that I've heard of, but I also have a lot of friends at Edgewater. They tell me of plenty of fights in their lunches. At Boone, a high schooler committed suicide. he was popular and had plenty of friends. I don't pretend to know everything about school violence but I believe that something needs to be done. Maybe metal detectors aren't the answer, but maybe something that promotes making more friends than just those in the program you're in or the classes you take. If students had more of a feeling of connnection and community with people then maybe the inner school violence wouldn't happen so much.

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Lunchbocks 11-03-2006, 6:24 PM Add to the Discussion
I do not believe that metal detectors are the answer. I believe that trying teenagers who commit violent crimes as adults and putting them in adult prisons is one of the answers. I also believe that holding the parents accountable if it is shown that they have neglected to try to keep the child out of trouble is also part of the answer. Enough is enough. No more blaming South Park; no more blaming Beavis and Butthead, you commit a violent crime - you need to be severely punished. I don't care if your 21 or 16.

Hank Casselberry Florida

dkraemer2 10-25-2006, 11:44 AM Add to the Discussion
Our culture today is a result of when parents try to be a friend to thier child instead of a parent. Instead of being a role model and teaching them right from wrong, good from evil, up from down, they are trying to get along with them, or trying to be a teenager themself instead of being an adult and takign care of the kids they had. Instead of telling a kid that gangster rap and hip-hop, and this rediculous fad of everyone trying to act like a thug is wrong and detrimental to them, they go along with it. They buy them the rap cd's, the thug clothing, they allow them to get tattoos, piercings all over thier bodies, and where clothing that makes them look look like they should be standing on a street corner. Parents need to start setting boundries for the kids. Tell thier 14yr old daughter that it is not acceptable for them to where a shirt that barely covers 2 inches of thier upper body, then they wonder why they come home pregnant at 15. Tell thier sons this little wanna-be gangster thug style everyone is trying to immitate now is a dead end road that makes them look like an idiot. When they speak like they have a 4th grade education, have tatoos up and down every inch if skin, gold in their mouth, piercings everywhere, every other word out of thier mouth is a cuss word, then wonder why they have a hard time making it in life or finding a good job. Don't accept that kind of behavior from your kids, unless you really don't care if they end up in prison, on welfare, or dead. It is ok though, the governemnt will pick-up the tab for your failures in life. Then when they don't, you can blame them for your problems.

hgrisham 10-24-2006, 12:53 PM Add to the Discussion
I agree with Sheriff Berry. But, shouldn't DCF and The State of Florida get a bit of the blame? We as women can bare a child and give birth to it, but once this child is born, we loose all parental rights to discipline and raise our children properly. I was recently at the Volusia County Courthouse in Deland and heard a Family Court Judge tell another parent that basically you can not physically disipline a child and "you are a fool if you do". This Judge happened to be a seasoned Judge, probably has as many years as my own father. Please tell me he didn't grow up with the respect we had for our parents because we knew that if we did wrong, we had to deal with the consequences, not put in time-out or put in the corner or better yet, grounded. And that meant most of the time getting our tailends spanked, not beaten, but a good old fashion spanking. I believe that you have to talk to your children and explain to them about why they are in trouble and the difference between right and wrong. But sometimes when that doesn't work, what do we do? Just forget all about it and say, "oh well". DCF has put it into our childrens heads that if we physically discipline them, we as parents are in trouble. Let's just forget about our child getting in trouble and facing the music, abused children need the system, not children that are misbehaving and being disciplined by their parents. We have no parental rights according to this beautiful and over populated state that we have been born and raised in or migrated to. I had respect for other people and elders growing up and still to this day do. My 15 year old son is in a small middle/high school in our county and I can go to his football games or other school functions and just kringe at the antics of other peoples kids, it's not my right to judge them. We live in a small rural town, you think our children would be better disciplined, they are not. They're children just like any other children and they have to be children, but still need to be under control. My son is getting that "teen-age" typical boy attitude and you have to bring him back to earth once and a while, but he is still a great kid and very respectfull of others and has a goodness in him that I thank my parents for everyday. And I thank them for the discipline and love they showed me and my two younger brothers. Oh, I almost forgot, they took us to church and raised us to love GOD. I pray for this family in Orlando that has lost their son.

JTRENZA 10-22-2006, 11:29 PM Add to the Discussion
My son attends University High School and many of the teenagers in my family have also attended the school. This school is a typical High School. Metal detectors could help, but in this incident I do not think so. This boy was ready and apparently planned this horrible crime. He could have hidden that pocket knife under a tree outside of schools grounds. I believe we need to talk to our children and make them aware of what can happen. I always tell my boys always be the bigger person stay out of trouble and never be afraid to talk about your problems, mom and dad are here to help. We need to make sure that they do not feel like nerds if we have to visit the school in their defense or to stop a ongoing problem, such as what these boys had. Maybe if the 15 year old had spoken out to his parents or even his school counselor about this issue he could have been here today with us. Anyhow my I feel safe sending my son back to school. University High believe me has not had as many problems as Timbercreek High! This was an isolated incident. I my heart goes out to the family of Michael Nieves, we may not be part of your family but we have cried like if he was. As for De La Cruz, I feel really sad for his family and I know that they are going thru alot themselves, but they can still see their son and speak to him and still hold on to the thought that he will one day come home (even though I do not think he will EVER come home again) But the Nieves family will never experience that again.

JANET TRENZADO

ftoledoh 10-22-2006, 6:50 PM Add to the Discussion
Dear Parents, I would like to kindly remind you that the responsibility of education begins at home. As parents we have the duty to ensure that our children follow the basic rules of society. Even though it is easier to blame state institutions for the short comings of our children, we are accountable for our children's actions. Life is God's gift to us and we must cherish this gift. Parents, please be involved in your children's life. Their life is your life.

Concerned parent

Sarah71 10-21-2006, 7:06 AM Add to the Discussion
This was a horrific act that hardly represents typical behavior. I agree that we should be concerned (and yes report it!) when teenagers are arguing. If this could have resulted in a trip to the guidance counselor/appropriate staff and different outcome may have happened. Help is there for troubled youth if we can first identify it and then act before it results in violence.

As someone who works with youth in need it is so hard to predict "who" will do "what". More security sounds great but what are we as individuals and parents doing to redirect youth in need of help? We all must hold youth accountable for their choices while at the same time be responsible citizens by doing something more and by not expecting someone else to do something about it.

Sarah

J&CP 10-21-2006, 6:29 AM Add to the Discussion
Suggestion: When kids get in trouble for violence in school put them in work camp instead of suspending them to just go home and get in more trouble. Then have the parents pay a fine to support the people that are going to watch these kids while they are planting trees, cleaning neighborhoods, etc. That way parents might be more likely to get inolved with their children. J&C ,Orange City

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