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Target 32 Investigates Kentucky's Child Protection System
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Discussion Started: 07-06-2006, 9:22 PM
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A Target 32 investigation took a closer look at the state child protection system one year after NewsChannel 32 first raised serious questions about an agency that saw a dramatic rise in the numbers of children it removed from homes. Share your views on the matter with other WLKY viewers in this discussion.
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DeaconBlue
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05-24-2008, 5:42 PM
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A few years ago, my son was hospitalized due to some kind of medication 'snafu'. He was hospitalized for almost a week. The hospital called his mother several times trying to get in touch with her and let her know what was going on. (It took 8hrs or more and she doesn't work) Of course CPS was called in and ruled it 'an unfortunate accident'. They had almost taken him from her before (for reasons I have not been told) and I wasn't contacted until it was almost too late. If he were in my custody, they would have taken him for the slightest reason. Protecting kids ought their first priority, and not based on sexist ideas. Sometimes dads are better gaurdians for their kids than mothers. (See Child abandoned at cemetary for example)
Imagine this says I
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LadyJ73
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12-08-2007, 7:12 PM
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I wonder if cps is keeping a closer eye on the workers that was involved in this??or are they gonna be allowed to do it again.It does make the workers that did wrong make it harder for the ones that do the job like it suspose to.I guess we will never know
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KRDM
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11-13-2007, 5:18 PM
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Thank you so much for exposing this awful system, my gratitude is immeasurable. For the first time in my family's life we went through an horrendous ordeal that lasted 7 months from Dec. 06-July-07 and cost our family a huge expense. The expense came about after we decided to hire an private attorney after realizing the complacency and refusal of the courts to acknowledge the incompetence of the CPS system.
I badly wanted to disperse my anger against the wastefulness of it all through a letter writing campaign after it was over but decided against it in order to protect my child's privacy who is now an young adult.
The system (CPS and family court) is more concerned with establishing a "power over" relationship at the cost of the well being of the family. I was even threatened by a worker after my daughter turned 18 due to them misplacing her paper work. She reminded me that I still had a child under 18 even though no problem or issue has ever crossed our path concerning this child. When asked directly if she was threatening me, she softened her tone and attempted to use the approach of identifying with my plight in order to appease me in order to duplicate the forms the system had lost.
I've probably written too much, but it is a relief to vent and see WLKY investigating a system that is sooo horrendous.
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RBWLDCT
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11-08-2007, 9:32 AM
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I have three grandchildren whos mother was directed by the court to keep her new husband away from them due to his substantial sexual predator ways, he was one of the school teachers who lost their license for it and their mother has allowed him around them during visitation. CPS is involved but have allowed the children around without supervision with their mother even though it was substanciated that he has been around them. The Ky courts seem to not care either seems like they are not there to protect them at all. They are there to say don't but do nothing when their orders are disobeyed, my son was told after not allowing them to go to visitation for a week, she only gets 10 hours, that he would go to jail but yet she allows them around this predator. Who has numerous complaints against him and he goes after the defenseless like young and handicapped. Where is CPS when you actually need them?
RBWLDCT
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OldiesRock
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11-28-2006, 11:55 AM
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Oh man oh man where to start. I have a problem with CPS because I've seen too many children being neglected and when they get reported NOTHING ever comes of it. I've never dealt with them myself but they will have a heck of a fight trying to take mine and that's a promise. Everyone has the excuse I didn't do anything to deserve this. Myself is included should they ever try to take my children. The thing is PROOF! Proof that you are not an unfit parent. I can proove it so I won't worry if they ever knock on my door. I keep close tabs on my children,they are fed,have clothes,go to school(and only miss school when school says they are sick and I have to go get them),are not in an unsafe household,we have water,heat,air,food,.......my house is never dirty,their clothes get washed,they take showers,.................there's no drugs,adult things going on in front of them that should remain in the adult bedroom,they go to the dentist,doctor,.....let them try. People have to realize this about CPS it doesn't have to be YOU that is unfit for them to step in. You could be the Little House On The Prairie mother,but the friend you have living there,the boyfriend,the hubby,the sister,the father-in-law,.......could be who they are basing their case around. Anyone can call in and say you did this and that or you don't do this or that,but if you're being a PARENT(and it's alot of work I know)then you shouldn't have anything to worry about and should fight until the very end. If it's not you they are basing their case around then someone in your household needs to go before your children do.
Is that your final answer?
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underdog19
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10-17-2006, 10:28 PM
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Interesting that WLKY can post a strand and facilitate a cyber referendum about how terrible the system is -- but a social worker is brutally beaten, cut and murdered and there's no referendum on that...
Oh wait, CPS should never have removed the baby from his mother and her boyfriend... they were mistreated and horribly construed and she never neglected him in his first 14 days and has no history of abuse... That's right -- I keep forgetting-- CPS removes for no reason at all.
I wonder if when CPS jumps to conclusions and terminates this poor misunderstood and mistreated mother's rights if WLKY will put the baby on it's Wednesday's Child feature? Maybe they should not do that to protest the unjust removal in the first place.
Hmmmmmmmmm -- wonder where John Boel is on this one..........
Underdog
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Fallon22
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09-20-2006, 10:41 PM
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Hi I think CPS is all for taking people's children away from their parents. They took my children away. I have done everything they have told me to do to get them back and they are still not home in their beds. I finished my classes.Took every assestment they have given me. I do not understand why I haven't gotten them back yet.They really do not loo out for the best intrest of the children
Fallon
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Jess27tia
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08-10-2006, 4:07 PM
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Let me advise you, Underdog 19, that the courts haven't ordered him to do anything. Or any of his family for that matter. His family is just as bad as he is. And I know that he is a full fledged drug and alcohol abuser because the whole time that I was with him he would force me to go after it for him. If I didn't I would get my butt kicked all night. It got to where it didn't matter what I done for him he still would beat on me. That's why he's had so many E.P.O's against him. His family is the same way. The whole time that we have been in court, he doesn't have to show up one time. I'm the one that has to come to court. They don't get court ordered to do anything. His family has alot of money, so basically, they get by with anything and everything they can. My mother is a school teacher for the mentally ill and my stepdad is a retired science teacher. If anybody should have got custody of my daughter, it should have been my mother. What I would like to know is, does anybody think that this whole situation is fair to my family? Just bacause they have a whole lot more money than my family, doesn't make them good people. They might be able to hide behind their money to disguise them, but I know them from 13 years of experience. I know what goes on behind closed doors. So, if anyone thinks that she is better off with them people, they are nuts. She would be better with my family no matter what. If one person gets court ordered to do something then the whole party should, eapecially with a background like theirs. Thank You, Jess27tia
Thank You, Jess
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uoflchick
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08-07-2006, 8:26 PM
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hello i am a mother of three children ages 6 4 and 3 i have been dealing with CPS since January of 04. They cant fina a reason to pull my kids from my home but they countinue to harass me at my home and my job. The case is agaist my kids father and myself and even though i have done EVERYTHING that they have asked including to admitting my son to a hospital because they say he needs 24 hour mental help they have still not closed my case. The reason is because the father has refused to go to court and follow the judges orders. Out of 10 or so court hearings he has made 2. The judge keeps giving him chance after chance and he dont care. The one time i missed court my CPS worked told me the soul provider for 3 kids to quit my 6.25 an hour job to come to court, even though my lawyer told me my presence is not need, and that my job was more important. I called my CPS workers Supervisor to formally complain and she told me that she would handle it. To this day it still has not been dealt with. The system is messed up. CPS needs to worry about the kids that are on the street and have no roof over their heads, instead of worring about the parents that struggle everyday so their kids dont go without.
chick
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edboze
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08-01-2006, 12:28 PM
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Here I am underdog19... kind of thought I said all I had to say and had not read anything I needed to respond to that I have not already. One of my post must of got erased do to some error .... hit a miskey or something while typing... hense the sentence in my post commenting on the taxi driver having a pornographic magazine open in view of a child. The part of my post refering to children being transported by the cabinet unsupervised without state transportation. I read through my post and corrected you in the word I used was "unrealistic" I believe you misread my post. It was a term correctly used in a report on how families are handled in court and the process by which a case plan is handled. The CPS manuals (Rules & Regs) are out there as part of now which is public record before you were lucky if you could supeana the manuals which many times CPS fail to follow. I have repeated myself in several post just to restate my postition as you may disagree, but is and always will be my contention that CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE USED AS BARTERING TOOLS and the removal of children should be a LAST resort used in cases of imenent danger and there is direct evidence of abuse. I have stated that in several posts. Yes, I agree as you said the court will have you walk on coals and broken glass and do stupid human tricks in order so to get your children returned and I believe that is exactly the way parents feel involved in the Family Court system..... a kangaroo court... in many ways run as a three ring circus. Much can be done to distort and paint an unfavorable picture.... spinning and twisting the truth to produce an outcome as featured in the newsstory. A termination of a child in 17 minutes with one witness... the case worker.... not having any direct evidence of abuse nor the accused being present. As the story also pointed out that most decisions are rarely if ever overturned in appeal. If CPS has nothing to hide and they are so caring and not corrupt then why not be forthcoming and why fight such a story being aired on WLKY. Underdog19.... this is not just a Kentucky problem with CPS and the practices going unchecked and kids being sold off to adoption. If you have been keeping up with national news... there are several stories in the National Press concerning CPS.... I will not give you specifics of any case.... I really am unsure as to what exactly you are referring... I have given you examples to which you conceed..... I do believe parents who are unwilling to do nothing for whatever reason. I also believe you would like to spread the notion that parents are just worse now that when I was brought up and CPS is doing a tough job and should be commended for looking out for the safety of the children to provide them foster homes and a permanent adoptive home. You dispell any notion as to the studies showing the effects of children in foster care. Dismissing it as risks that were present due to the homes of which they came from..... when the study shows otherwise. If foster homes were the answer then these children when becoming adults would be ready to be productive members of society. That is not the case. I have mentioned being "Institutionalized". The fact is the government does a poor job and are not parents. They can't even account for many of the children they have in their care. Many are lost in the system. You are more likely to abused in foster care that in you own home. I know personally of abuse that was "covered up". I commend you for having ethics and morals to speak out in your profession Thanks... Ed
edboze
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