underdog19

07-17-2006, 3:29 PM

OH - I forgot - I've been to fightcps.com --- and I had to laugh -- talk about poking a hornet's nest with a stick --- most of the suggestions on the list would do just that -- being uncooperative with the system is the BEST way to have your kids removed (generically speaking)

And if your neighbors are calling CPS on you because the dog is barking or because your grass is too long -- methings you need new neighbors! Smile

Underdog

underdog19

07-17-2006, 3:18 PM

Serrin -- but in the end, you kept fighting for the kids..... should you have had to go through that? maybe not, but unlike many parents who end up involved in the system, you kept fighting for your kids. And that's the difference -- many parents get SO wrapped up in fighting CPS that they forget to fight for their kids. And I don't know if the "bad" worker was an investigator if you asked for a new worker, but bad practice by INDIVIDUAL workers (and on mostly rare ocassions entire offices) doesn't come out unless people raise the issue. Therein lies the problem -- these reports on WLKY don't hone in on the problem -- they make the leap to a grand conspiracy by an entire agency. Do you really think that an entire agency (300-400 CPS workers in Louisville alone) would be able to keep the lid on a conspiracy like that? Somehow I doubt it. Most workers that I know are principled people just trying to do a very difficult job.

I don't know if you've ever called the CPS hotline -- but it is actually quite difficult to get a "case" accepted for investigation -- the level of specific information that is needed is maddening to say the least. And that's just from calls that I have made (in good faith- no effort to be messing with people) that even you might agree needed to be called in.

I don't have an answer for your situation -- sounds like a worker did a number on you and for that I'm very sorry (not that that matters Smile ). But not every worker in every office has the same evil intent --as you yourself found out with your new worker.

Underdog

serrin

07-15-2006, 6:44 PM

Underdog, I won't go into all the details. Let's just say a drug addicted brother was upset that he wasn't allowed to visit so an anonymous phone call was made alleging sexual and physical abuse. My children were humuliated in an exam at the hospital for them to find no signs of abuse. But then all of a sudden the house wasn't clean enough. A few dishes in a sink becomes"sink full of dirty dishes" on a report. This dragged on an on because of a vindictive worker. Once I got a worker who actually looked at the issues, bingo case closed.

Now some people may lie but there are a vast number of people abused by this system. It's domestic terrorism. You don't like your neighbor's dog barking all night, call CPS. You don't think a person cuts their yard enough, call CPS. If you have a child in this nation you are subject to being a target of a CPS investigation. For a better look at parents wronged go to www.fightcps.com.

paulsbaby

07-14-2006, 8:32 AM

There for a long time well a little over a year I had been dealing with the courts.It started with my oldest daughter that went to Iq middle school.She was being abused both mentally and physically and would cut school locking herself in storage rooms and bathrooms.They got me for habitual truancy.The courts and cps could care less about what was going on in her school.Theres so much more to my story but not enough time to put on here.We fought in court and it got dismissed but then I was put under investigation for all 3 of my children.It dragged out and I did exactly what they asked of me.But one cps worker did what she could to make me look bad.And everything was false.Well the last time we went to court back in may I had a choice.....they would dismiss charges on my 2 younger children but I would be charged with My oldest,my oldest was the one who was dismissed to begin with.And I found out more info that stood in our innoccence.I had to give in to "Our So Called System" for it was mentally exausting for myself and my 3 children.They need to realize that it's not us as parents who are hurting our children....It Is Them.Needless to say I moved got my daughter in a better school,she's doing great but wheres that leaving other children attending Iq middle school,the violence and discrimination?They don't care,their worried about thier money per head of each student that walks in their doors....cps is only worried about how many familys they can destroy.And the thing of it all is for four months im court ordered for cps to come out once a month.Which even my new worker couldnt understand it.

Someone needs to moniter THE SYSTEM

And give us back our rights

Melissa L Snyder

underdog19

07-09-2006, 1:35 PM

Ya know serrin - you are right .. CPS is supposed to OFFER help to families... but I can tell you that many of the families that CPS offers to help are so busy being offended by being asked to do something OR so addicted to drugs and/or alcohol OR so wrapped up in the fact that their "daddy whipped me with a belt til I bled and by god I'll do the same" that they can't be bothered to accept the help that is offered. And if kids come into care because of a particular issue -- I can guarantee you that no ethical child protection worker is going to allow that child to go home to his/her parent until that issue has been dealt with. But again, if the parent isn't willing to do his/her part -- the worker is just supposed to say -- Oh - ok -- no problem?

Every day in this state, children are being left alone for days on end with nothing but girl scout cookies to eat, spanked with a hand hard enough to leave a bruise on bottoms or legs, spanked with belts, electrical cords or other "weapons", intentionally burned with cigarettes, curling irons and kitchen stoves, PUNCHED in the face as discipline, born addicted to cocaine, meth and other drugs -- the list goes on and on.

So did you make all your visits with your child? Did you make the visit about them and not about how "CPS can go to hell"? Did you bring age appropriate things to play with while you visited? Did you hug and cuddle your young child and act like the visit was about what you could do for your child that was emotionally connecting and not how bad it makes you look that your child was taken away?

Or were you one of the parents that showed up for visitation when they felt like it -- or showed up late leaving their children wondering if mommy or daddy was coming "this time". Or maybe you were one of the parents who continued the alleged abuse even while you were visiting. It happens in subtle ways EVERY DAY.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm sure you were royally screwed by the system -- but the vast majority of kids in the system are there for good reasons --- and reasons that parents will never admit to -- only being willing to complain that CPS stole their children from them so they could make some money and that CPS can just "go to hell"

So who do we believe? and how does a child protection worker determine that YOU are telling the truth but these other families aren't -- or should they just not try to protect anybody's kids at all?

Underdog

serrin

07-06-2006, 5:53 PM

I have had a long hard battle with CPS that ended this year, almost 2 freaking years later after it began.

My children are home, and finally safe from the depredations of "Child" Protective Services. I missed my last child's first birthday, I missed his first steps, I can never get those things back. So CPS can go to hell in my book until they get the reforms going. I contacted the Ombudsman gave them all the details about innaccuracies in my case, the perjury that was committed and they came to my house with a statement for me to sign. I signed it, with fear of retaliation, but I signed it. I hope this new cleanup that is going on will help. CPS is supposed to be an agency that helps children and families. It's not a brokerage for children from poor families, so that they can be raised my upper class parents. Love doesn't have a bank account. You can be the richest in love and the poorest in cash. When the social workers learn that lesson, they will at last be SOCIAL workers.

underdog19

05-25-2006, 5:12 PM

Ya know -- maybe if Lorie33 had completed the tasks that her CPS worker had asked her to complete, the outcome would have been different.

I am not a CPS worker, but it seems to me, that regardless of whether you think CPS is justified in intervening in your life - the fact of the matter is, apparently for a lot of you guys, they did intervene.... Instead of getting offended and ranting about it -- why not take it as an opportunity to improve yourself?

I have to say that I have only very rarely seen so many folks convinced that a conspiracy existed -- with the exception of the moon landing and the Kennedy assassination....

Take care of your personal business and I'll bet the majority of you would have had faster resolution to your CPS case and might have gotten your kids back.

shannon72

05-24-2006, 11:34 AM

My story begins in California. I had just given birth to mine and my husbands second child on the 26th of april and three weeks later was in court fighting for my children. My husband at the time was the son of a veteran police officer and all of the judges names were familiar to them. He claimed I was unfit to raise my oldest child then 3 years old but that he did not want anything to do with the baby. So I got the baby and he got the 3 year old. They took my perental rights from me and my son was no longer my son. Finally unbenounced to me I found out that my now ex-husband signed over gardianship of our son to his parents and left the state. Now neither one of are his parents and by the grace of God if I can afford a plane ticket I can go to California and visit my son at his grandparents home only. They will not allow me to take him anywere. Just for the record my attorney that I had paid for did not show at the court house and explained that she had an ill mother and could not return my money for the retainer because she had filled all my paperwork that did me absolutly no good. I have tried to right this wrong for years but I have to live in California in order to file and go back to court and I just don't have that kind of money. My son is now 15 and only knows me by phone and the occasional visit. I will never forgive myself for not makeing this right for him......I love you Tylor

Shannon Brown

lorie33

05-01-2006, 12:31 AM

friday april 28 ilost my parental rights in court they could not proove naglegt or unfit or my children the exscus that they used was that my boys have been in foster care for to long so why didnt they return them home to me instead of taking my rights ... cps would not even allow a family member step in to get them out of fostercare....... one of the workers even promised my boys to the foster family how unfair i am desprate for help on getting my rights back can any one help please...................

not guilty lorie

Wanda9003

01-13-2006, 9:53 AM

The Liberty Tree Gathering At Our State Capitol in Frankfort January 25th 2005 beginning at 10:30

The Messages of

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