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Lancaster Convention Center
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Discussion Started: 03-17-2005, 11:23 AM
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The proposed Lancaster convention center has hit a number of snags. What do you think of having a convention center in Lancaster?
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Artie_See
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12-03-2007, 10:04 PM
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To cjwood:
The currently estimated cost of the hotel and convention center project is $176 million, and is certain to go higher. Add to that the operational subsidies that taxpayers will need to provide forever to keep the convention center doors open. The only "private" investment is $11 million in "equity" to furnish and equip the Lancaster City owned hotel building, plus $24 million to be paid from future earnings.
How can this project possibly make any kind of economic sense? How much and what kind of economic development could this project possibly generate that would justify its cost?
It doesn't matter how well convention centers in other cities are doing. I challenge you to find a comparable convention center and hotel complex in a comparable city that cost taxpayers anywhere near what this project will.
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inthecityp
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12-03-2007, 12:52 PM
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I look at the future of Lancaster and hope that the plans and ideas that are being concieved by our local officials actually help Lancaster grow. I'm not so sure that the thinking and proposal of the Convention center was fully thought out. What I believe would have been much more benefitial to the growth of Lancaster is the custruction of an indoor arena, similiar to the Soverign Center in Reading. Constructed in the area of Clipper Magazing Stadium, the center could be utilized year round for concerts, proffesional wrestling matches(ie: WWE/WWF), Lancaster's own arena football team(like Reading), ice hockey team(like Reading), soccer, and other sports. In addition, trade shows, graduations, and the like. It would draw in residence from all over the county and state who enjoy these types of events, but are hesitant or are unable to get to other venues. The potentional for year round revenue is great, as well as the amount of jobs that would be created by the custruction and the events held year round. Clipper Magazine Stadium and the Barnstormers have started the explosion, build the arena and watch the explosion expand. With it, the Convestion Center may grow, but without it, many of the events I listed above can't even be conceived being utilized at the Convention Center.
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acjwood
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11-21-2007, 7:21 PM
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To Brian 7741;
Every convention / Reunion I have been to in the last 40 years have been held in small to medium Centers and in some cases center City Hotels. They have all provided Transportation ( Bus mostly ) to activities beyond the limits of the City. River Dinner Cruises, Museums, Theaters (Site & Sound say ) Battlefield Tours ( Gettysburg ), Amish Cluture and so many more that are present in our Pennsylvania. The Conventioneers plan their own stay and entertainment. The facility ( Convention Center ) provides the togetherness that comes with 'Convention'. Quit being a Nattering Nabob of Negativism ( as once uttered by a certain VP ) and join in the promotion of YOUR HOME AREA to help in the success of the Center. It will bring jobs. It will bring Dollars and it will bring additional renewal to Lancaster. Without this effort you only serve to surrender to the lowlife that seems to be your reason for not supporting the Center. Are you on that side of this issue?? Search your Heart. Lancaster deserves to return to it's great days and with people like you with negative attitudes against that outcome you continue the failed policies of the Lame Duck Commissioners.
Sabre
CJ Wood
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Artie_See
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10-16-2007, 3:15 PM
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In spite of the repeated slander and incessant personal attacks, County Commissioners Molly Henderson and Dick Shellenberger have finally achieved exactly what they set out to do: better protect their constituents, the people of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
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Lost Boy
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08-13-2007, 4:46 PM
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Brian 7741... with regard to con-vention Field of Schemes. I'm sure your ideas are well intended, and in the philosophy class they work. However. You make the mistake that many people make in thinking people on welfare roles want to get off them. If they did, generational welfare wouldn't exist. Think about what quota hiring is. It's government sanctioned racisim. One group identified by race gets excluded by law. How isn't that government mandated racism? Most of the post construction jobs will be in the order of minimum wage. The elite management team has likely been chosen by Marriot from within their company. I'm also guessing that non-management full-time jobs with benefits will be very few. This is a project doomed to be an albatross upon the taxpayers. I have yet to hear any of the con-vention center cheerleaders demanding to invest their own money into this.
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Lost Boy
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08-09-2007, 9:46 AM
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This could be titled: Field of Scheme's...if you build it they won't come
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brian7741
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08-02-2007, 12:38 PM
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When hiring starts, quotas for hiring minority persons from Lancaster City should be 75 percent. The other 25 percent should be Lancaster County natives. All candidates should have 5 years or more as residents of Lancaster County. Lets put an end to this poverty and crime in downtown Lacaster as these visionaries have seen with this dream. Lets get started soon, drug rehab will take time and we want everyone to qualify. If Lancaster gets 50 percent of its participants off welfare and onto the taxpayer roles, they could build even more projects of this type to create even more jobs.
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payroll66
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07-31-2007, 12:09 PM
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I am worried now because all of you naysayers are going to make it fail!! Yes I said it. Would it kill people to think positive for once? Or are you too worried about where your precious tax dollars are going? Get a life! Worry about something worthwhile. At least Lancaster is trying SOMETHING!
Spoken like a true NON resident of Lancaster!
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justaguy12
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07-27-2007, 2:42 PM
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Building of the convention center may provide local jobs initially, but after that what? No one I have talked with, including some of Lancaster's most respected, feels that this project will be a long term success. I believe that the space should have been used for local shops, restaurants, theaters, and possibly up-scale condominiums.....things for the local folks. Hate to say it, but Dick and Molly were right to try to stop it. Do I hear the steps of the tax man coming?
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Lost Boy
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07-27-2007, 10:38 AM
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Why wasn't this ever put to a vote among the taxpayers? I have yet to meet anyone who's in favor of this Con-vention Center. From a Peter Seeger song some fifty years ago: "I learned that Government must be strong; It's always right and never wrong; Our leaders are the finest men And we elect them again and again."
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