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Dominatrix Neighborhood
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Discussion Started: 05-15-2003, 10:59 AM
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An RTV6 Special Assignment revealed that a woman calling herself Mistress Ann is operating a dominatrix business out of her Meridian-Kessler neighborhood home. Police say it's legal, but some residents aren't too happy about it. It's also located two doors down from a Catholic grade school. What are your thoughts on this issue?
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enoughlaws
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12-05-2005, 5:11 PM
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2 doors down from a catholic school...???
give me a freakin break... LAME... LAME... LAME... just another excuse to deny your rights as an American citizen! pick on someone else!
the media watchdog
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wolfkri99
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12-01-2005, 9:40 PM
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Leave Ms Anne Alone, dont you people have better things to worry about. Why go after someone who has a different way of life then you. If she is not pushing it on you, or forcing it on you nor prading it around the kids, you all should think about your own problems or the problems that are going on in your city.
More Power to You Ms Anne, Keep the faith and keep on fighting, if not for someone like you I wouldve never explored the true submissive I am. ThankYou
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INDYPOLICE
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11-30-2005, 11:15 PM
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The Police Department/City of Indianapolis should be focusing on crimes that have victims rather than waste resources, time, money, and efforts and interfere with peoples personal/private choices that do not hurt anyone. While this is not something that interests me, it?s obvious that some must enjoy it. Government in general should refrain from stepping into peoples personal lives. This applies to religion, sexual preference, and what people do in the home they own. As long as no child is harmed or anyone is hurt, leave people alone and let them enjoy life. By the way this is AMERICA!
ADAM COPPER
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Indywoman
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12-10-2004, 5:25 PM
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I don't care what she does in the privacy of her own home. I DO CARE that she would force it upon people who don't wish to be subjected to this.
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JW50
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07-06-2003, 8:56 AM
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Seems to me that the only people she is hurting are those who enjoy and pay good money for it. Leave her alone.
Your fellow gardner, JW
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Millikenj
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05-23-2003, 10:32 AM
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Although I support this woman's right to do what she's doing (as long as she's not breaking laws), I cannot resist pointing out some issues in her transitionless post below.
Those photos were produced, in part, to challenge us to re-think our perpectives about what is considered obscene. Dressed in casual business attire I was more clothed than anyone on the trail that day. The model, dressed head-to-toe in custom European latex, with only skin around the eyes and mouth, was more covered than me. The image didn't ask you to interpret it. You made a decision to interpret it as something obscene.
Images, by nature, demand interpretation. To say that interpretation is the viewer's fault is completely ridiculous. Everything one sees demands interpretation. If you do not discern what you see, that you cannot establish its meaning. The simple act of getting out of bed and heading to the kitchen to make a pot of coffee is filled with images--each demanding interpretation in order to make your journey successful. To say that an image does not ask for interpretation is a very uneducated statement.
This is how I interpret the photo. The image clearly shows individuals of different interests and lifestyles peacefully enjoying a gorgeous spring day in Indianapolis in the village of Broadripple.
Your opinion on the photo is irrelevant, and as an artist, you should know this. Once artistic material is released into public view ("public" meaning "for the view of anyone" , it is open to opinion. That is the basis of spectatorship. Again, interpretation is left to the spectator, not the artist. The artist's opinion of his own work is only relevant to himself--not the spectator.
I am tired of people on line (who never have visited here) thinking of us hillbillies and rednecks. Via my web publishing, I wanted to show people from around the world, that Indianapolis is a friendly, hip, peaceful and progressive city.
So, then, it's okay if we have visited to keep thinking of you as hillbillies and rednecks, right? Indianapolis' media is proving itself to be this very cow town by making such a big deal of what is basically a small business operated out of the home. I'm sure that the idea of a "Friendly, hip, peaceful and progressive" city can be better illustrated than by photos of latex-clad slaves on leashes being walked through parks. I also find it amusing that Indianapolis has been yelling at other cities for years that it's some world class city and a force to be reckoned with. That should say something right there.
Fondly,
James Milliken New York, NY
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Charles74
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05-22-2003, 11:44 PM
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Freedom of the press as with all freedoms necessitate a cerain amount of responsibilty. This concept was ably expressed by one of the Founding Fathers who said that "my right to wave my fist stops short of your nose". I was very disappointed in your sensationalized broadcast. I found it to be sleazy tabloid type journalism and not at all in keeping with good journalistic standards.
I have been reading the posts here and am amazed that you would allow someone to proclaim themselves an attorney who can not even construct a proper sentence as witnessed in this quote from the Law; After reading Mrs. Sanders complaint in regard to the issue of this "dominatrix" of which everyone seems to find so contreversial, I was compelled to see exactly what the laws say about this woman who was seen on televison soliciting fetish and B&D interests to clients."
I know that so called "lawyer jokes" have a certain popular appeal however this is not only not amusing it is insulting to intelligent readers.
I hope that in the future what I formerly considered to be a good boadcast medium will return to higher standards and not indulge in such obvious blatant sensationalism. If not then I will watch less of your channel and more of cable.
Hoping that you improve,
A Discerning Viewer
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jayston
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05-22-2003, 3:38 PM
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There is indeed a point one reaches in life when you can say to yourself: "Now I have seen everything."
I am a foreign immigrant to Indiana. Now before Emily Sanders gets out her cross and portable can of gasoline, I would like to point out that whether she likes it or not, I chose to live here, because, at the time, I found the people who populate this state to be at once welcoming to a very frightened 18 year old who simply had a couple of suitcases and his wits to live on. That is the beauty of Indiana. It should speak volumes that people should wish to come here instead of an exodus to areas with greater opportunity. However, as Emily Sanders and Mr. Rutherford's letters so beautifully illustrated, there are in any given place, always going to be something that will sadden even those who thought the pastures were a perfect shade of green.
One of the more interesting aspects of American television,I found, are the commercials which offer such wonders as: unlimited bargains, help for those who need credit repair, a mortgage or an attorney no questions asked, and so on. This is the beauty of the culture - someone, somewhere has a service designed to fit your needs. However with very few exceptions, you need to videotape the commercial in question, take out a magnifying glass and freeze frame it at the point where writing, not even Superman could read, displays all those exceptions designed to avoid lawsuits.
Disclaimers are useful. They let you know whom is to be excluded from reaping the benefits of such glorious savings. America's commercial to the rest of the world is Freedom - be it religion, expression and culture. It should thus be all encompassing -but one has to read the disclaimer: "Offer does not apply to anyone we think is different."
The counter argument to this is that we all have our views and they should all be respected under the right of expression. However it is when we deliberately set forth to injure others who do not rise to the standards of a phrase I have heard often used but never quite comprehended- Judeo-Christian Values- that the rights of expression become in as much a self-serving tool for destruction as the often quoted Old Testament is. I say Old Testament, because those who loudly proclaim "Judeo-Christian Values" tend to conveniently forget some pertinent parts of the Newer testament altogether. Was Jesus wasting his breath when he discussed judging others, or the self-righteous, or acceptance of others? These are very liberal philosophies and sadly something we must clearly never acknowledge. The point is, in the end, made by those who raced to judge this sort of "sexual-deviance" by using their "Judeo-Christian Values" as a Quod Erat Demonstrandum. You have to read the disclaimer: "Values do not apply to some or most of the actual words of Christ."
There is one more very pertinent disclaimer: Channel 6 would like me to believe they stick to an ethical code of responsible journalism. However when it comes to competing for the all powerful numbers there is, frankly, no such thing. Mr. Rinehart has a job to maintain and believe me, when you are in the media it is in constant jeapardy. Exposing a "House of Domination" during the sweeps month of May and getting the city in an uproar is precisely the sort of thing that will keep viewers coming back to Channel 6 and Mr. Rineharts jon safe for at least the legth of his contract. Oh how envious Tribune must have been. However, lets read the disclaimer. Channel 6 could care less about you or anyone else they report about. If a woman has lost all her children in some sort of house fire - there is no news unless they can capture a shot of her grief, or even better, get a picture of her lighting the candle that started the whole fire in the first place. Let us not forget that this is a business and in the end, as long as you tune in at 11 pm and not to 13 or 8, that is all that counts. Honestly, they care more about the well being of a housefly. Responsible journalism? Sorry folks but I am afraid that's not news. Now if, say, one of these children from the local school has accidentally strayed onto the lawn of the front lawn of this Dominatrix then that is worth a 10 minute expose! Give it any kind of angle you want - scarred for life, unable to return to school - just make it newsworthy. The truth is far too boring. So when you see another banner that proclaims a news team "caring" - ask them if you can be a part of their world for an hour. See the disclaimer for yourself. The story, you will discover, from the news room is entirely a different kettle of fish.
Respectfully
JM
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bvkct
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05-22-2003, 3:13 PM
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I have been reading these posts and the article with interest. Although I do not know much about Indiana law I was a state court prosecutor in another state for over ten years. I agree with the quote from the police that indicates nothing described on here violates the law under current constitutional guidelines. The statutes one post quotes are similar to those in other states, are old, most likely do not meet constitutional muster, and are rarely enforced at all.
What this lady is doing is far from what people can see on MTV every day or even an old Beavis and Butthead eposode. If you havent watched MTV lately, you might take a look.
The bottom line is there is no sex involved, the service this lady is providing is totally consensual, is not public, and should be simply a private matter.
I would also point out that D/S interests are even getting into the mainstream these days. On the Regis show his assistant recently modeled "bondage pants". Many teens dress in "goth" fashion that is far more bizarre than anything in the pics on this article. All of this is First Amendment protected and everyone should just lay off of it.
Bev Borden
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Maitresse
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05-22-2003, 2:59 PM
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Hi there! If we are to follow the logic of Mr. Rutherford then every single parent who allowed their children to watch the Batman episodes in the 1960's which featured Catwoman exposed their children to obscenity. We are all corrupt...except those that didn't watch Batman.
Those photos were produced, in part, to challenge us to re-think our perpectives about what is considered obscene. Dressed in casual business attire I was more clothed than anyone on the trail that day. The model, dressed head-to-toe in custom European latex, with only skin around the eyes and mouth, was more covered than me.
The image didn't ask you to interpret it. You made a decision to interpret it as something obscene.
This is how I interpret the photo. The image clearly shows individuals of different interests and lifestyles peacefully enjoying a gorgeous spring day in Indianapolis in the village of Broadripple.
I am tired of people on line (who never have visited here) thinking of us hillbillies and rednecks. Via my web publishing, I wanted to show people from around the world, that Indianapolis is a friendly, hip, peaceful and progressive city.
We are not a "cow town". We have art galleries, artist communities, Opera, Ballet, Symphony Museums, and world class sporting arenas.
Indianapolis is a world class city.
I love this city I call home.
Regards, Maitresse Miss Ann "The Reformatory"
Regards, Maitresse Miss Ann Dungeon Arts Reformatory
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