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'In God We Trust' Plates?
T O P I C Discussion Started: 04-23-2007, 12:07 PM Add to the Discussion
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The ACLU of Indiana has filed a legal complaint challenging the constitutionality of the year-old law that created the "In God We Trust" specialty license plate, saying its supporters receive preferential treatment not available to supporters of other specialty plates. In light of the suit, do you think Indiana should continue to make the "In God We Trust" plates?

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minnielynn 02-29-2008, 7:53 PM Add to the Discussion
I believe we need more of this kind of display to show that we do Trust God and it needs to be put back into the schools and public offices. Things started going downhill when we took GOD out of our daily lives. I want to keep the plate we have.

Sincerely,Linda

MidiMagic 12-20-2007, 6:07 PM Add to the Discussion
There is no topic on the online discount for registration renewal, so I have to post it here. But it is relevant, because it is an0other form of religious discrimination.

The $5 online discount discriminates against my religion, because my religion prohibits online money transactions.

... Life is a dirty trick, but government is a dirtier one....

INdy5 12-18-2007, 11:09 PM Add to the Discussion
One important item no one is mentioning. The plates have two small letters that are very hard to read. The State police can not track these vehicles if you don't get the letters right. If you get robbed or hit and run and can't see thos little crunched in numbers you're SOL. SO for all you criminals, be sure to steal the IGWT plates so people can't ID you.......pure genius

Just letting you know,

MidiMagic 10-23-2007, 10:19 PM Add to the Discussion
It doesn't generate any extra money.

... Life is a dirty trick, but government is a dirtier one....

deacon84 10-16-2007, 8:56 AM Add to the Discussion
Yes, we should continue to make them. I dont see anyone complaining that the money in their pocket has the same thing printed on it. As for the money it generates it should be distributed in the same manner as all other speciality plates , no more and no less.

GOD Bless

MidiMagic 08-24-2007, 11:19 PM Add to the Discussion
If the ACLU were defending the rights of ALL people, I wouldn't be upset with them. The fact that they are picking and choosing certain rights over other rights is the problem.

While they are championing the rights of criminal defendants and those who want sexual freedom, they are trying to take away the rights of freedom of religion and the rights of the victims of crime.

... Life is a dirty trick, but government is a dirtier one....

mamaskeo75 08-23-2007, 6:42 PM Add to the Discussion
If you are upset with the Indiana Civil Liberty Union or the ACLU, you should know that their sole purpose is to defend the Constitution of the United States. If you have a problem with that, then you should write you Congressman and see if he can change the Costitution for you.It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. It only has to do with the Constitution. Look it up.

Cindy

MomsVoice 08-03-2007, 10:02 AM Add to the Discussion
Ignore the message and attack the messenger, how cross typical. Im not interested in bickering with you Midi, your beliefs will give you exactly what you expect whatever that may be. All I can do is bless you and hope you are truely happy.

Thanks for the chat, it wasnt substancial or meaningful, but atleast you made an attempt.

Jennifer

sheep follow their leaders, people THINK and make up your own minds....

MidiMagic 07-30-2007, 6:37 PM Add to the Discussion
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Uh Midi, how many ministers, preachers and openly professed God fearing 'christians' have been involved in and prosecuted for cases of 1. child molestation 2. prostatution or 3. murder just in the last few years nationally?

A very very small percentage of the total.

No matter what group you look at, you will find that some ringers have slipped into the crowd. So this argument is really a red herring - an attempt to sidetrack the issue.

1. Don't count Catholics and Protestant Christians in the same group. Catholic priests are under extra celibacy rules which are NOT in the Bible.

2. The fact that someone SAYS he is Christian doesn't mean that his beliefs are really Christian:

- There are many charlatans who pretend to be Christians for various reasons.

- Some college students choose ministry as a profession to avoid working for a living (usually true Christians leave their congregations quickly).

- Some people pretend to be Christian to please a significant other, but don't really understand Christianity.

- There are newbies who haven't read enough of the Bible to know what they are doing. They base their wrong actions on a few isolated verses taken out of context.

- There are too many who say they are Christian, but who are really obeying the religion of Political Correctness instead. They were taught this aberrant belief in government schools.

3. Note that many in the news media want to discredit Christianity. Many journalists are liberals, and want the anti-war religion of Political Correctness to become the state religion. So they amplify these incidents to discredit Christianity.

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To those outside this Messiac belief see a seriouse problem, it appears the worship has shifted from focus on the Messiah, rather than his teachings.

What??? This sentence doesn't make any sense. Please POOFREAD!

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Im not trying to convince you or anyon else that theres a problem, its on the news all the time so theres nothing to discuss as far as I can see.

It's on the news, because the liberal news people WANT it to be on the news. They grab every little instance and magnify it out of proportion.

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The mother who hung her children and herself, the mother who drownd her children in the bathtub, the father who shot his wife and son, ... the asian student who shot fellow students after videotaping himself saying he was "LIKE CHRIST"

I have noticed that many mentally-ill people blame Christianity for their wrong actions. But they usually do this out of their own hatred for Christ (not in obedience to Him). They open their mouthes and blather, and the clowns doing the news take it at face value, rather than for the hatred it is.

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the ministers doing drugs and hiring prostetutes

This is a very tiny minority of ministers, but if you listen to the news, they make it sound like all ministers do it. And undoubtedly some of those are among the charlatans mentioned earlier.

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I find myself sad to see the loudest voices tend to be those who trust the Lord our God the least.

That makes sense. The true Christian is NOT supposed to announce good deeds with trumpets and fanfare. The faker does that. The believer is supposed to do his good works in secret, so nobody can boast.

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The facts are the facts, we don't see horror stories about Buddists, Muslims, or Wiccans killing their 'beloved' family members in this country. If they are, it certainly got past the media.

The news media suppress some of them. I had to use other sources to find out about a homosexual who was angry at Christians and committed a massacre in a Texas church. It received all of 4 lines in the local paper, because the story wasn't Politically Correct.

There were several cases where Muslims killed their women for "fornication" or "Sharia violation" (wearing Western clothing.) You didn't mention those. But the news media didn't cover them for extended periods either. They got a few lines on the morning after the event, and then disappeared into a black hole of non-coverage.

Satan-cult members do some of these awful things you mention, and then claim that Christ made them do it. They are also responsible for most of the cattle-mutilation cases.

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But you should keep in mind that there are people, such as the Pope, who recently formally announced all churches EXCEPT Roman Catholics are 'lacking' and therefore unsaved by Christs blood, irregardless of being extentions of their church and based on the same beliefs. He says he is the 'authority' on such matters..... but thats just his feelings, thoughts or words right? It means NOTHING in the broader scope of religouse matters of the Christian kind.

I agree with that. The Catholic church added a lot of stuff which is NOT taught by Christ or included in the Bible. That's why Martin Luther and the Protestants left Catholicism.

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Now, if it was a Muslim or Wiccan group who were getting plates at a discounted price from the state... I wonder how that would go over here?

What discount price? The price is the cost of a license plate.

The other special plates have an extra charge, because part of that charge is used to support the group the plate is for. The School plate sends some money to schools. Christian groups can't get such funding, but want their beliefs represented anyway. So the extra charge can't be put on the God plates.

The Ham Radio and Disabled Veteran plates also have no extra charge. Any ham radio operator can have his callsign as his license plate number. So it is not just Christians who get special plates with no surcharge.

I'm trying to decide which to get this time - I can't put my ham callsign on the God plate.

Environmentalism is a religion, so there shouldn't be an extra-cost special funding plate for the environment.

The vanity plates (e.g. "VW WABIT"Wink DO cost more to use, because the plates have no normal county-of-origination info coded into the license number. So the state has to run a special database for them. Normal license plates, and the other specialty plates, do have county-of-origin info coded into the plate numbers, as do the "In God we trust" plates and the ham plates (the FCC callsign itself has base-station location encoded into it), so the database charge does not apply.

... Life is a dirty trick, but government is a dirtier one....

MomsVoice 07-24-2007, 5:41 PM Add to the Discussion
"Most people who hate my religion want to do something which is a sin. In other words, they are eventually going to harm others."

Uh Midi, how many ministers, preachers and openly professed God fearing 'christians' have been involved in and prosecuted for cases of 1. child molestation 2. prostatution or 3. murder just in the last few years nationally? To those outside this Messiac belief see a seriouse problem, it appears the worship has shifted from focus on the Messiah, rather than his teachings.

Im not trying to convince you or anyonelse that theres a problem, its on the news all the time so theres nothing to discuss as far as I can see.

The mother who hung her children and herself, the mother who drownd her children in the bathtub, the father who shot his wife and son, the ministers doing drugs and hiring prostetutes, the asian student who shot fellow students after videotaping himself saying he was "LIKE CHRIST"........ I find myself sad to see the loudest voices tend to be those who trust the Lord our God the least.

The facts are the facts, we dont see horror stories about Buddists, Muslims, or Wiccans killing their 'beloved' family members in this country. If they are, it certainly got past the media.

I wont argue your first amendment right to speak about such things. But you should keep in mind that there are people, such as the Pope, who recently formally announced all churches EXCEPT Roman Catholics are 'lacking' and therefore unsaved by Christs blood, irregardless of being extentions of their church and based on the same beliefs. He says he is the 'authority' on such matters..... but thats just his feelings, thoughts or words right? It means NOTHING in the broader scope of religouse matters of the Christian kind. Its a BELIEF which lays wide judgement upon anouther group in order to further isolate the group that religon wishes to elevate.

Now, if it was a Muslim or Wiccan group who were getting plates at a discounted price from the state... I wonder how that would go over here?

sheep follow their leaders, people THINK and make up your own minds....

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