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Kamehameha Admissions Change?
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Discussion Started: 05-06-2003, 8:59 PM
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Kamehameha Schools is talking about lowering the requirements for academics for student admissions.
Some say this will allow a more diverse population on campus.
Do you agree with this? Is there a better way? What are your opinions?
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kauaigirl
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11-03-2003, 6:31 PM
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The focal point of Kamehameha Schools is to educate children of Hawaiian ancestry. Along the way, the trustees have made Kamehameha an "elitist" school that takes only the brightest and best. Yet, our prisons are full of our Hawaiian children, who are now adults, who could have benefited from an education at Kamehameha. It would have provided them with much more at an earlier age. The "best and the brightest" will do well at any school. The school nurtures and reinforces what the child learns from home and what is avaiable. Kamehameha school has a high success rate among graduates, because they are only focusing on those who would succeed anyway. I would love to see them educate every child of Hawaiian ancestry, with schools across the state. Shed the elitist attitude and admission practices. How dare Kamehameha even consider changing their admission policy, when so many children of Hawaiian ancestry are not all treated fairly. The intent of Pauahi is not being met, as greed and favoritism continue to hinder the admission of many worthy children.
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edwatch
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10-31-2003, 1:14 PM
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Lowering academic standards for admission is not a bad idea per se, as long as it doesn't create more opportunity for corrupt admission practices. As COP said, transparency in the admissions process is essential. The criteria should be actively promulgated and precisely delineated.
Less academically advanced children frequently overtake their more advanced peers, as learning rates and motivation are not linear. The highest tier students will thrive regardless of their academic setting. Enriched academic environments benefit middle tier and lower tier students most, as it provides opportunities to reach for higher achievement.
on call...
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808tunda
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10-30-2003, 4:34 AM
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Response to: Kenconclin Removing the â¬Sracial restrictionsâ¬Ì on Kamehamehaâ¬"s admissionâ¬"s policy will not make it any better then it is today. The fact of the matter remains that every year at least 5,000 plus children of Hawaiian ancestry apply at the Kapalama campus alone and only 450 seats are available. That means for every seat available, at least 15 children of Hawaiian Ancestry are competing for that one seat. Removing the racial restrictions will only increase the numbers of children that will apply, probably four times the amount as you have stated, say 20,000? ⬦ Nothing will have changed, except now, thereâ¬"s 5 times more children (non-Hawaiian & Hawaiian) competing for every seat. You do the math. My question to you is ⬦ (and I want you to really think this one out) why would none Hawaiians want to attend the Kamehameha Schools? Aside from learning the normal white manâ¬"s curriculum, (for lack of a better substitute) students will be required to learn the Hawaiian language, their culture, their music & customs, from Kindergarten to High School. Now, do you really think thatâ¬"s what non-Hawaiians want to learn? No, hell no, they want to learn the same things that other private schools teach and only very little, if any Hawaiian. Next thing will happen is some non-Hawaiian kid will file a lawsuit stating â¬Swhy should he/she have to learn the Hawaiian language when it is not an official recognized languageâ¬Ì. No, even though I have a lot of Haole in me, I strongly support the Kamehameha Schools and their admissions policy. You should too and remember⬦ there's plenty of other private schools. Have a nice day.
Imua Kamehameha, TGK
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cop
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09-02-2003, 12:04 AM
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Nani girl,
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I think that they should open up more spaces to potential students that live on Hawaiian homestead land across the state.
I think this is a good idea. But, instead of making it so this takes away from other areas, Kamehameha Schools should just open up more seats exclusively for kids on Hawaiian Home lands. That way, everybody wins.
What harm can a couple mores students per classroom do? In California, it isn't out of the ordinary to have more than 40 kids jammed into a single classroom. What is it like at Kamehameha Schools?
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Why is it so limited to the students who need the help the most?
I couldn't have said it better. Kamehameha fails at meeting the educational needs of most Hawaiian children.
It is time for change.
cop
Aloha!
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cop
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09-01-2003, 11:42 PM
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Puniboy,
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Lowering requirements for admission? In what way and which requirements would that be?
What I would lobby for as a Hawaiian is greater transparency of the admissions process. How much does the tests affect admissions? Ditto on interview, letters of recommendation and previous grades.
I'd like to see a breakdown of the statistics on how well students score, where 'high' scores tend to be clustered, and what general areas of the State need more attention.
I think with this information we can more properly gauge what affect, if any, the requirements have on admissions, and then act from there.
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Keep things the way they are. They've worked out this long haven't they? IMUA KAMEHAMEHA!
Actually, Kamehameha seems to be failing the bulk of the Native Hawaiian populace by refusing to service a greater percentage of school-age Hawaiian children. In fact, Kamehameha seems to have "worked" and continues to work exclusively for alumni, and even more so for those who have a long family legacy at the school (those who have "pull" ) .
Even you will admit that this makes up a very small percentage of Native Hawaiians.
IMUA KAMEHAMEHA indeed, to greater and farther horizons. But, braddahs an' sistahs, take moa of us wif you, can?
Aloha e Puniboy,
cop
proud non-alumni
Aloha!
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upidstay
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08-28-2003, 1:51 PM
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To Mahina
Didn't you hear of "Ernie" Pauahi Bishop? He was the little known cousin who actually wrote the will. Nah, spelling error noted.
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Mahina
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08-27-2003, 5:21 PM
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Posted by upidstay: I believe Kamehameha Schools should honor the will of Ernie Pauahi Bishop. No more, no less.
Ummm...upidstay, who is "Ernie Pauahi Bishop"? Never heard of him....
Kulia i ka nu'u
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Mahina
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08-27-2003, 5:21 PM
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quote:
Posted by upidstay: I believe Kamehameha Schools should honor the will of Ernie Pauahi Bishop. No more, no less.
Ummm...upidstay, who is "Ernie Pauahi Bishop"? Never heard of him....
Kulia i ka nu'u
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kimomakano
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08-26-2003, 6:53 PM
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robert6: To the one who "graduated Alpha comlaud". Did they have Grammar and Spelling in that school? 
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Mahina
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08-26-2003, 6:44 PM
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This discussion seems to be veering off into all directions, so I will address the question of whether academic standards should be lowered for admission to Kamehameha Schools.
Kamehameha Schools is primarily a preparatory school, not unlike Punahou or I'olani, in that its main goal is that a high proportion of its graduates will go on to higher education. For that, I believe the academic standards must be kept high. We cannot afford to put graduates out there who don't have a chance of keeping up with the demands of centers of higher learning.
However, I do think Kamehameha Schools should bring back its programmes for those who either wish to enter into a trade or cannot devote the time and energy to higher learning. Not everyone wants or is able, for a variety of reasons, to go on to university. Kamehameha Schools has wonderful programmes for the keiki; there are programmes for adult education. I say if Kamehameha Schools wishes to serve the whole Hawaiian community in education, let them open up vocational training facilities.
My two bits.....
Kulia i ka nu'u
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