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City Recycling Proposal
T O P I C Discussion Started: 03-24-2003, 6:19 PM Add to the Discussion
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Mayor Jeremy Harris proposed cutting back garbage pickup to once a week and adding a day for recycling.

Do you support the plan?

Do you think the system would be too easy to abuse?

Is there a better way to do this?

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JJJ26 04-15-2005, 8:12 PM Add to the Discussion
Just in time it seems that Foodland helps out the bottle effort. Especially since citizens are being asked to help Foodbank efforts this weekend; every dollar back helps everyone. Otherwise, we could get rid of alcohol in cans and bottles, sodas and juices in cans because after all none of that is good for our health anyway. Or if state is making bundles of millions of money from deposits; let public decide how to spend surplus or have $5000 drawings for cashback. Like designate money to help homeless, education, military needs etc. Or get rebate back during tax time.

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JJJ26 04-13-2005, 9:44 PM Add to the Discussion
Let's recycle those million$s back to the public we gave to merchants for bottles and cans. with interes$t --

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JJJ26 03-14-2005, 7:55 PM Add to the Discussion
And the Maui business owner had to invest $25,000? Probably should get some kind of rebate from federal government or incentive tax credit from fed/ state/ county.?

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JJJ26 03-09-2005, 7:28 PM Add to the Discussion
Eh we gotta give props to the station owner on Maui who is taking recyclables at his gas station. What a great idea?! Bring your bottles, get some change back and use it to pay for the creepingly increasing costs of gasoline. The stations that have little snack shops and lots of space on their lots should think about doing this on O'ahu. They sell drinks and snacks; and gas stations are the most frequented places by consumers, next to super markets and drug stores. And your hands get dirty already by pumping your own gas. Hopefully the recycle line isn't too long also.

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bgjudson 02-12-2005, 9:46 PM Add to the Discussion
I guess I just don't understand the bottle refund procedure, and I hope someone can explain it.

We pay six cents per container of which five cents is refundable when we take it to a collection/refund center. I understand that the one cent was added on for "program administrative costs (?to pay the people that do the refunding?)."

Well, this is where it becomes hazy to me. Before we had the "container law" we could take our recyclables to a collection site and receive a sum of money based upon the weight of the type of item (lets just concentrate on tin cans - soda, beer, other beverage, etc). Now we do the same thing and receive the five cents per container that we have already paid, but nothing for the container's weight. That container still has the same recycle value doesn't it? Who gets that value?

Seems that the recycle people are getting both the value of the material in the can as well as the one cent per can that the government gives them. Wasn't the whole effort meant to get the average citizen to begin recycling items rather than filling the dumps and transfer stations?

Doesn't it appear that we pay to have certain items recycled (the one cent) (and WE have to deliver those items), we are refunded our own money (the five cents - that, by the way, some government people are hoping that we won't bother to return then so the government will be able to keep the entire six cents), and we are no longer entitled to receive the value of the item that will be reused after the recycling process. Certainly the recyclers were making money the way it was - why now is the consumer/tax payer expected to fatten their pockets as well?

If the answers to my questions (which should be fairly obvious) are true then I am inclined to want to take my recyclables to the offices of the legislators/council members/government officials, leave them there, and let them take them to the collection stations (at least that way they will find out what a mess there is in turning in the collectables and how inconvenient it has been so far).

On the more serious side - perhaps the program should be held in abeyance until all of the problems have been worked out and the recycle people do no longer become the beneficiaries of the "windfall" that has been handed to them. There is nothing wrong with the idea of recycling - I support a good fair system without question. I just don't believe that the entire cost of the system, and the lack of benefits thereof, should be placed solely on the consumer.

JJJ26 02-03-2005, 4:45 PM Add to the Discussion
It's nice to have those blue bins for recycling but it's also nice to have those trucks in the parking lots; it would be even nicer if stores gave credit also; like they used to do in the old days. Didn't they use to give back 2 cents or 10 cents per bottle? Why is there tax on the deposit fee? Like 5 cents for a bottle plus one cents fee additional. Recycling shouldn't be anyone's monopoly; it should be just a fact of life available at the nearest market.

This fee is actually making me cut back on soda and water/ juice purchases.

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BabyElvis 01-13-2004, 5:06 AM Add to the Discussion
NO WAY I PAY TAXES.FIRST THY REPLACE THE WORKER.NOW ONCE A WEEK.MO BETAH TELL US WERE YOU LIKE US DROP UM OFF.AND PAY US THE LOAN'S THY MAKE.SURPPORT YOUR CRACK HEAD'S NOW.APARTMENT YES HOME'S NO.

Mr.Elvis Aaron Presley Jr.

uslaptwo 01-10-2004, 2:06 AM Add to the Discussion
Honolulu Tax Payer Recycle Cash Cow Introductory Proposal 1. fill separate plastic grocery bags with: (a) slop (b)plastics (c)glass (d)soda-pop and juice cans (e)paper products. 2. tie each plastic bag with a twist knot. 3. throw all the filled plastic bags in large black or clear trash bags. 4. throw out trash every night in outside county trash bin until lid barely closes. 5. bake a cake or make a pot roast. 6. take cake or pot roast to neighbor's house whose trash pick-up is not the same day as yours and ask if you can dump your extra trash in their county plastic trash bin and offer same to neighbor. 7. when the next contract for the Opala Technicians is due for renewal, because you have performed the sorting-labor and did not need the second day trash pick-up you would be able to prevent the pick-up service user fee for second trash pick-up to increase to infinity $$$$$$$ out of taxpayer pockets. 8. remember the sewer service user fee?

Alooooha, uslaptwo

upidstay 09-16-2003, 5:08 PM Add to the Discussion
I think they should give a tax credit according to the amount (in weight) of recycled items a household turns in. Of course this would mean having to have recycling weigh stations in every district which I am not sure they already have, but this would be a good way to convert more people over to recycling. As an island we will have no option, but to become waste free in the near future.

WestLoch 09-15-2003, 7:41 PM Add to the Discussion
I support this plan. For one thing, it'll save me the hassle of fighting with the stuff into the recycling bins. Besides, we all benefit in the log run ... Smile

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