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2002 Governor's Race

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Discussion Started: 10-12-2001, 3:03 PM

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With Gov. Ben Cayetano's term set to end in 2002, several polticians are jockeying to take over Hawaii's top elected post.

They include Honolulu Mayor Jeremy Harris, former gubernatorial candidate Linda Lingle, state Representative Ed Case.

In addition, there are reports that Lt. Gov. Mazie Hirono, long thought to have eyes on the governor's office, will in fact not run.

Who's the frontrunner? Who's the sleeper? Who should become our state's next governor?

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kimomakano

11-12-2002, 3:19 AM

sour grapes..... pessimists can always find something to whine about... let's move forward and try to make a positive impact..

bgjudson

11-10-2002, 5:58 PM

Have we already experienced a form of Cayetano arrogance with Lingle's treatment of Dobell on the telephone. It is just a precursor of what is to come? I hope not.

mtndude

11-09-2002, 4:43 AM

I think a lot of people judged Mazie as being Cayetano. They are totally different people. Does Ben have a vagina? No. They are different. I think that Lingle will give change, but a change that will mess things up. She made a lot of promises to which i know she cannot keep. I dont think she understand fully how hard it is to run an entire state. She probably thinks its like running a big 'maui' or something? Running a entire state is difficult. I dont know but I read in here somewhere that people believed Lingle would help the hawaiians get their land or whatever. How can she? It isn't that easy. just because you chose a woman or even a republican person makes your chances better. Getting something like land from the US govt. is hard and difficult. It's not something you can just say i want this and automatically get it. Also, trying to make Hawaii its own nation? Thats stupid. Yeh it was run by a king and queen before but now its part of the US. How do you expect to go against the US govt and make Hawaii a separate nation. thats hilarious. I think we didn't see the last of Mazie. Everyone will soon realize the huge mistake they made when they voted for lingle

Maikai

11-08-2002, 3:58 AM

" . . . They had not changed their minds since 1893; to them the American way was still the best way, but too much Americanism would be self-defeating. As Sereno Bishop said, the Hawaiians who opposed annexation were incompetent to judge the situation, and the implication was that they would be politically incompetent still. . . Sanford Dole, governor designate of the territory, held this view. . . The only thing they could do was to win native voters away from Wilcox (Hawaiian elected delegate to Congress) and the Home Rulers and thus bring the Republican party to power. . . But the Republicans, who did not regard the Hawaiians as equal partners, would try to buy political support as cheaply as they could, in the same way as they bought everything else they needed to run their businesses." ("Shoal Of Time: A History of the Hawaiian Islands" Gavan Daws)

Those are just a few little snippets from a couple of pages. Don't kid yourselves, the "Republicans" were in power here for a long long time. You all remember from your history don't you? The missionaries . . . the plantation owners . . . guess what? Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think their political views were pro-Hawaiian.

I never said anything about "Caucasians." I think you misinterpreted my point. I was alluding to the past history of Hawaii.

Maikai

potluck

11-07-2002, 6:10 PM

In response to kimomakano. I; in fact, did NOT vote for Hirono. I could not decide who would be the "lesser of two evils". And all of this talk about dishonest Democrats, remember now that Lingle herself did NOT exactly shine as the Mayor of Maui!!!

Palani

11-07-2002, 5:34 PM

Congratulations Hawai'i for finally trying something new. The legislature must work with a new Governor who has been chosen through a democratic process.

It was time for a change. No one party should be in power forever. Power corrupts! Everyone must work together for the best Hawai'i possible. This can be a positive change, and we all need an open mind and give her a chance. Go for it!

aloha!

haw_son

11-07-2002, 4:43 PM

I'm really saddened at the comments being made by the Democratic Senators. It seems that they're already condemning our newly elected Governor without giving her the benefit of the doubt. What ever happened to being presumed innocent until proven guilty?

The Democratic Senate seems to be making it clear that they don't intend to play ball with their fearless leader. They intend to really make it difficult for her to do her job that would be beneficial for all.

How do they know that her plan is doomed to fail? Did they give it time to work? Do they have a crystal ball in their midst that enables them to see into the future? Or maybe they're physic! Give it a chance to work before you condemn it.

The Democratic Senate must realize that they were elected to serve us, the general public. We elected them into office so that they can work on plans that would benefit this state. They weren't put into office just to criticize others because of their beliefs. They must remember that what they do (or don't do) now, may effect them greatly come the next elections.

It was a Democratic Governor who made it difficult for the blue collar workers to pay their bills, by instituting the payroll lag. He said that it would save the state money in the long run. So where is the money? How much did we save? And now it seems that idea isn't working, and to delete the payroll lag for blue collar workers will cost the state even more money. Why didn't they look into it further before causing this headache?

All I'm saying to the Democratic Senate is... don't be prejudicial. Give the ideas time to work, and if it doesn't, then seek other solutions that will work. At least you can truthfully say that you've tried

kimomakano

11-07-2002, 4:34 PM

In response to potluck's comment "Nearly half of us voted against her". Does that mean then that your won't was't FOR Hirono? that you were just being NEGATIVE? Seems ironic that you accuse Lingle of BASHING and yet your whole comment is one very negative (if not bashing) commentary.

StopUnions

11-07-2002, 4:27 PM

I propose that we end "forced" unionism! Why should I be forced to join and PAY DUES to a labor union when I don't want to -- especially if unions support political views and ideologies that go against my own religious and political beliefs. We need to be given a CHOICE as to if we want to join a union or not -- not make it a condition of employment. So here is my plug: Hawaii needs to be a "Right to Work" state. Check out this cool site by the National Right to Work Committee: http://www.right-to-work.org

AMEN!

Stop Unions!

StopUnions

11-06-2002, 11:29 PM

Cutter has great cars! What is wrong with having license plate holders with the Cutter name on State of Hawaii cars and trucks? Nothing wrong at all... unless the cars are built by the nasty United Auto Workers (UAW) on the mainland!

Stop Unions!

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