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Hawaiian Recognition Act/Akaka Bill
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Discussion Started: 06-06-2006, 9:44 PM
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A bill before Congress would grant Native Hawaiians an opportunity to be recognized as Native Americans and Native Alaskans are.
The issue has become a dividing point for Native Hawaiian groups. Some support the measure and others believe there are better alternatives.
Share your thoughts about the measure and suggest your own solutions.
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Alinfun
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09-21-2008, 3:33 PM
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The moment is now, The present is the past, We all got here the same way as our feathered friends, The mode of tranportation is not in questain The importance's is the changing of seats in the canoe, Quest guides us all as the steers-man We land and some continue the Quest, From whence one comes from is of no importants to where one goes, Like the wind passing forever in search, the goal is a horizen it's there but can never be reached, Steadfast we will in time find our own horizen. And at last be as our feather friends. HOME in a nest we can call our own.
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Rome24
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06-11-2008, 12:38 PM
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Hi folks (i hope KITV keep this thread open)
i think i remember Arch Bishop Tutu of Africa once said: We fell to our knees when the white man arrived,,,,they had all the glass beads and mirrors and WE had all the land...... But when we stood up,,,, we had all the glass beads and mirrors and the WHITE MAN had all the land!
kind regards rome
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Tane
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06-10-2008, 5:45 PM
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continued... The laws of occupation automatically came into play but the US ignored it like it did the Hawaiian citizens and it is in continuous violation of those laws. The Kingdom was also a neutral nation akin to the status of Switzerland or Sweden. A few Hawaii Nationals continued to be involved with the new government to preserve Hawaii's interest and protect the people. One such person was Prince Kuhio. Who introduced the Hawaiian Homestead Act of 1920 to insure the Native Hawaiians would not be stateless or homeless(as what was happening). The white Americans insisted on blood-quantum as they did with the native Americans before they would support it. The US declared Hawaii Nationals US citizens against their consent (Ku'e Petitions) and enforced assimilation into their WASP mainstream society and culture while increasing US immigrants to Hawaii to create a majority which would decrease or eliminate non-whites in Hawaii. This would then be more acceptable to receive Hawaii as the status of a state. Once the myth was secure and established, the complexion of Hawaii was more WASP American. The UN established the Mandate laws dealing with declaring the non-governing territories self-determination and de-colonization. Hawaii was on that list. This prompted US Congress to immediatedly declared Hawaii a state a year before that law was passed. The ongoing campaign in Hawaii was "Taxation without Representation" and no longer being 2nd class citizens, we could vote for the president, elect our own governor, and have a voice in Congress. Roughly 28% of eligible voters voted and of them 94% or so voted for statehood, which were only US Americans, military and their dependents. Some Hawaiians were prevented from voting and others preferred not to vote and others voted NO. The problem with the ballot is that it did not give one a choice. The only question was should Hawaii become a state or remain a territory. This eliminated independence, commonwealth, free association; only integration was presented to the people. This is in violation of the international laws for self-determination and this irregularity with no UN oversight makes statehood null and void. So, we have been living under a lie for over 115 years. So, do we hate the American people? Of course not! We never did; only the scurrilous people that were from the USA and its government. Remember, we love our country as much as US Americans love theirs.
Tane
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Tane
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06-10-2008, 4:41 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me that most are simply clueless and adhere to myths that promote disinformation. People believing the deception then use vacuous arguments to validate their stance and continue the myths created by the media, schools, and government.
Let's take it from the point of the crime that has grown into a controversy and not 300 or 1000 years ago; the USA was not created then. Start from 1893 with the US invasion-belligerent occupation of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Everyone is entitled to their opinion knowledgeable or not; but it doesn't change the facts.
As many of you know, the USA acknowledges its conspiratorial complicity in the takeover of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Over 96% of the Hawaiian nationals, 15.6% who had no Hawaiian blood, signed the Ku'e Petitions of 1897 against annexation of their country and to reinstate the Queen; seven months later the unlawful annexation was created by a US domestic resolution that is ineffective in a foreign country like Hawai'i, ignoring the Hawaii citizens. The self-made Republic of Hawaii, under the protection of the US Military, had no legal rights or ownership to the landes since the citizens did not regard themselves its citizens. Only whites were allowed to vote in their government and a few privileged non-whites and definitely, no asians; the rest were disenfranchised. The only ones for annexation were those privileged few US Americans part of the conspiracy. (to be continued)
Tane
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Rome24
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03-21-2008, 2:48 PM
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hi folks, can anyone update on the: Hawaiian Recognition Act/Akaka Bill
kind regards rome
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Rome24
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02-04-2008, 11:38 PM
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hi folks, I saw on KITV, 27-Jan-2008: Hawaii becoming a Model For Renewable Energy.
c10.5 billion KWh of electricity was used In 2004
http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/info/economic/library/facts/Facts_and_Figures_State_and_Counties.
Windwrdguy: You say, and I am paraphrasing here, The Akaka Bill is expected to result in, a carving out of a significant portion of current public lands and state revenue for the exclusive use of those who register as having a minimal genealogical connection to any Hawaiian 10 generations ago."
if so imho, If you fit that criteria, get a windy sunny bit.
kind regards rome
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pilotsean
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01-16-2008, 4:47 PM
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Held hostage? You obviously dont know the history of Hawaii becoming a state. Its odd, everyone loves to complain about being a state, but not one person can offer a sensible alternative. Everyone loves the benefits given to them by the US Government, but will at any given chance bite the hand that feeds them. Do me a favor....dont post any anti American PROPOGANDA until you educate yourselves enough to know who first petitioned the US Senate to become a state, how many times they petitioned and what the United States initial reaction to Hawaii becoming a state actually was. As I previously stated, have a plan. Freedom from statehood will come at a price, a price which Hawaii cant pay nor has any idea how to handle. Here is another point. Very few genetic Native Hawaiians actually exist. Being born in the islands does not make you Hawaiian. So if you dont have a Hawaiian bloodline at all......ZIP IT!! Being born here and being 40% Filipino, 30% Japanese, 10% Spanish and 20% Scottish and 0% Hawaiian entitles you to NOTHING!!!!
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Poki
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10-25-2007, 6:15 AM
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This is fundamentally a point of inheritance. It is tragic that Hawaii is held hostage by both the military and by envious newcomers. Justice will prevail, and all should make it a priority to find and implement peaceful solutions. Support the Akaka Bill!
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Sue1005
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08-28-2007, 12:41 AM
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Having been an educator in Hawaii for the past 20 years, I think it is unfair to give special privileges based on race in any situation. I fully support performance-based awards on either end of the spectrum. Students with special needs should be recognized and given needed assistance whether they are Caucasian, Filipino, or Hawaiian (or any other ethnicity here). Students that have proven their skills and initiative should be rewarded for their outstanding behavior. School counselors should service all students, not just one race. Race should not be considered a dividing line for an award system, whether we are in school or trying to live in our home state. Therefore I cannot support the Akaka bill for this reason.
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mtkaala
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08-23-2007, 1:11 AM
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Where did the Hawaiians come from? If I read the Akaka Bill correctly, a "native Hawaiian" would/should include all living Marquesans and Tahitians also, since they were the original "indiginous people of Hawaii" or a "direct lineal descendent of the aboriginal, indiginous people" who "occupied the islands before Jan. 1, 1893" and "occupied and exercised sovereignty of the Hawaiian archipelago". I believe historians agree that the Marquesans were the first occupants of Hawaii in the 8th century and the Tahitians came later in the 12th century, and Hawaiians descended from them. Therefore they satisfy the wording of the Akaka Bill. Read the epic story of Laa from Tahiti by Fornander. Where do you draw the line?
Hawaiian as anyone
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