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Senate Race 2008
T O P I C Discussion Started: 01-15-2007, 12:49 PM Add to the Discussion
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Who do you think would make the best candidate for Senate in 2008?

Who would you vote for and what qualities are you looking for in your U.S. senator?

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Triskelion 02-10-2007, 3:13 AM Add to the Discussion
For those who push for Libertarian rights and Constitutional Amendments which are dictated of the consensus of the American people and the majority say, I wish anyone who takes these values to the House, the platform of decision and weigh, for the voice of the people, to have ethics and personal judgment to establish those votes into our Democratic system. A Democracy is run by the people, it is not a partisan judgment, rather, it is a Constitutional claim to rights and civil choice.

talltrees 01-31-2007, 3:53 PM Add to the Discussion
Well, having a senator that just represented part of any district is a bad idea. If they happen to be from the Denver/Boulder area, so be it, as long as they are representative of the entire district. I'm sure that Allard was not representative of the entire district but to be honest I haven't paid that close attention to his career. He was a quite senator and I can't recall much accomplishment for anywhere. The only time I recall hearing from him was over the one man/one woman marriage proposal and on the AFA rape scandal.

Regarding minorities (of which I am NOT one), I believe in equality of opportunity. It's sad to think that in this day and age, there are some classes of folks who don't have the same access to education, etc. but its true.

Equality of opportunity is not the same as equality of results (which is socialism). What you do with your opportunity is up to you if you can get access to that education.

So, there is a need for a certain sized welfare net and we can certainly afford to pay for it.

In civility thou seem'st so empty.

Skyrokhet 01-31-2007, 12:52 AM Add to the Discussion
I am so sorry that I offended your total PC personality. I was using outdated PC words. Yes I know that farmers are paid for not planting crops which is not right because it does not allow them to make money by producing more food. It is like telling employees that if they produce more they will not make more but we will make sure that it is with in what we think you should make. In case you want to slam me I am a minority and do not feel that we should get extra rights. If you want to be in the Senate you need to take the entire community in account, not just the certified minorities according to the liberals.

zivo24 01-23-2007, 7:45 AM Add to the Discussion
Skyrokhet,

First of all, have you ever heard of a thing called farm subsidies?

The government has been paying farmers for years to not grow crops so that prices can remain stable...or bailing them out when time are bad.

Don't get me wrong. I fully recognize the importance of American farmers and support programs that assist them when they are unable to deliver their products to the market due to conditions beyond their control, like weather.

And no party has ever included discrimination against farmers in their platform or tried to write it into the constitution. No party or politician has ever worked to deny farmers equality.

And for future reference, Skyrokhet..this is the way preference is spelled and preference implies CHOICE. If you believe that sexuality is just a simple choice, I invite you to proove it by becoming gay yourself. Not for a single sexual interaction because that's not what it's about. Become gay for long enough to fully experience the feeling of exclusion, of being scapegoated. Maybe when you've walked a mile in other people's shoes, you'll get off your high horse and show a little compassion for others.

I'll let someone of color explain to you what something like profiling feels like for them.

Skyrokhet 01-22-2007, 1:15 AM Add to the Discussion
Our nation and hence our state was founded upon majority rules with concessions to minorities. Unfortunatly, most Denver and Boulder residence think of minorities as being an ethnic group or a sexual preferance group, not people that make their living working the land. These are people who are hardworking and have to be able to do what is needed to get by. I really do not like the treatment they are getting becouse they are not on the Denver/Boulder approved list of minorities. Ritter has been criticized because he does not have enough women, Hispanics and the pre-approved minorities on his list. Politics is who has the most power, money and access to the Media. It really, in my mind, does not matter who is elected because they only listen to those that have the most of the above mentioned items.

zivo24 01-21-2007, 5:29 PM Add to the Discussion
Skyrokhet,

Colorado was originally settled,, by European Americans at least, who came here for gold and silver.

When the mines dried up, agriculture did become the state's major industry.

For approximately, the last half century, however, the state's primary industry is tourism.

The point is that times change.

In 2005, the U.S. Census Bureau estimated Colorado's population at approximately 4.7 million people. Of that, approximately 2.6 million of them live in the six country Denver/Boulder metro area.

The people who live in these six counties pay the lion's share of taxes collected in the state each year which benefit the entire state.

Yes, the people who live in Denver and Boulder are paying more to pay to pave the roads on the western slope, the eastern plains, etc than the people who live there. Their contributing more toward the salaries of the state troopers, CDOT workers, etc than the others.

I know you don't speak for all the people who live outside the metro area but I've heard similar gripes before and they don't hold water. I've always said, if these towns and counties think they're getting less than a fair shake when it comes to representation - maybe all the state taxes collected should be spent only in the counties where the residents who pay them live.

Then they'd be speaking out of the other of their mouths.

In Wayne Allard, we had a senator that met the criteria you listed..he wasn't from the Denver metro area and did NOT represent the majority of the people who live in it...and he was a miserable failure.

Ken Salazar is not from Denver either, for that matter. So, Skyrokhet, contrary to what you say, it's high time the people of Denver...without whom the rest of this state could not survive financially, deserve one of their own in the senate!

Skyrokhet 01-20-2007, 11:55 PM Add to the Discussion
Unless they are approved by Hollywood and the news media it does not matter how good they are, what they have said and done they are bad. I am so exhausted by listening to the hollywood greats and what they believe (give the poor money unless it is mine and protect the nation unless I am involved or can't do what I want). Even in Colorado they get into our politics, like the over paid CA star knows what is right for Colorado. We are becoming a state that does not look at its past and build on it. We are a state that was built on agriculture and mining. We are moving away from that. Look at SE Colorado and the suffering there. Very little is being done for them. I would like to see a Senator that is aware that Colorado is not just the front range with Boulder and Downtown Denver at it's center. So far I have not seen anyone that will do that.

zivo24 01-18-2007, 8:51 AM Add to the Discussion
I don't have anyone in particular in mind but it MUST be someone who is a polar opposite from Allard. Altough, I think Andrew Romanoff, the speaker of the Colorado house, would be a good candidate.

Allard had the lowest legislative output of any senator and voted with his party nearly 100% of the time.

The only major piece of legislation he sponsored was the gay marriage ban amendment to the constitution.

There is a war going on, hundreds of people, American and Iraqi are dying everyday over there. Katrina wiped out an entire American city. The average media income fell by about $3000 while the richest Americans (those earning more than $300K) were socking away more money thanks to tax cuts that favor them....and Allard could get worked up about was gay marriage.

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