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Should We Have A Statewide Smoking Ban?
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Discussion Started: 03-16-2005, 12:37 PM
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On July 1, Colorado will be under a statewide smoking ban, with only casinos, cigar bars and the smoking lounge at DIA exempt.
What do you think of this ban? Is it a violation a person's rights? Is this good for businesses? Do you think taverns and small mom and pop bars should have been exempt too?
Let us know what you think!
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angelfire90
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11-15-2008, 2:20 AM
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Taxation without Representation??? Freedom of Choice taken away??? Does not alcohol kill innocent people as well??? Private ownership rights taken away. Does this sound like Freedom??? The Right to Pursuit of Happiness?? To the soldiers that fought for our country, I am sorry you cannot smoke from relief from stress related things that has happened during war. To play on human addiction is sick. If second hand smoke kills so many people, then why are their so many elders???
If I wanted smoking bans, then I would move to France. What sets us apart from the rest of the world is not safety, its FREEDOM!!!! Without that, we are no different that the rest of the world that oppresses its people. Go ahead and drink, overeat, abort babies, but by all means, dont smoke?!? oh, unless you gamble you can smoke. Gee whiz, I am an adult that feels like I am hiding a cigarette from my teacher in the bathroom. I can fully understand having certain restrictions on things, this is logical. Cigarettes are more than just leisure activity, to some its how we cope with life. We no longer smoke in public places, restaurants,hospitals,etc, now lets move on.
stop the smoking ban.Unconstituional.
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BCAnselmo1
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02-20-2007, 11:22 PM
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Althought this is old News, I am currently doing a research paper on this topic for my U.S.Government course.
First of all I would like to thank the News Channel 7 for having this posted, and second thanks for allowing me to comment.
Before this ban was passed I would have said no, because I am from Pueblo and have seen the effects of the smoking ban. Although the bars are clean and free of smoke and prevent clothing smelling from smoke, the problems that persisted was the fact that people had to step outside. Sure in places such as California where tempuratures get as cold as 50 in the winter time, there will be no problem for people to step outside, yet what about Colorado where tempratures reach as low as -10?
I am not a smoker, and I still oppose the ban. the one passed in Pueblo as well as the one passed for Colorado. I feel that business owners should have their right to put their establishment the way they want to.
Another issue is the fact that some designated smoking places which are sealed off well, and have an exaust fan does not bother the non-smokers. So Why should a smoking ban be passed if a place is well ventalated, or appropriatly sealed off? do those need to be torn down after spending lots of money to have the place ventalated according to building code, and smoke fans need to be removed, now because of the fact that they are just "wasted space"?
Although some sources say that "more and more people enjoy smoke free places" what about those that want to just relax, and their way to relax is having their smoke? What the sources do not say is the fact that places that have had a smoking ban made peoplego out in the cold to freeze. One person in Pueblo had gotten mugged because of the ban, and also it made it hard for dectectives to capture those smokers of marijuana who actualy do step outside. Also the Litter became a big problem, and not to mention the fact that drinks laying around for those smokers may get tampered with, because the law states that alcoholic beverages can not be brought outside.
my overall opinion is that I think it is a violation of peoples rights, because even non-smokers have a choice, they can choose not to go to a place that is full of smoke, itis not good for business because Owners have their rights to run their establishment the way they want to, because I know of a landlord who could not smoke in his own house because his home is his office, and that violates his own rights. And finally if a ban like this being passed, mom and pop bars should be exempted as well, afterall if casinos as well as cigar shops and especially DIA's smoking termanal can have it because they are appropriatly ventalated, or sealed off, Why not the mom and pop bars that have appropriate ventalation have it too?
Peace, BC
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talltrees
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10-31-2006, 10:48 AM
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Today there's an article informing us that it's illegal under the new Nazi anti-smoking law to pretend to be smoking.
While I'll readily admit that it's generally foolish to be pretending to be someone you're not...I must ask the rhetorical question of where the government's regulating of behavior will end.
It's not enough to have a law regulating alcohol consumption, drug consumption and now cigarette consumption. Now we might get fined or serve jail time if caught by Nazi law enforcers if we pretend to smoke.
And at long last, states will now make it illegal to have transfats in the marketplace.
Whatever happened to freedom of choice, accountability for one's own behavior and a small and accountable government?
I like a free America. Perhaps we might one day learn what we've lost.
Too late?
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Laurent53
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10-11-2006, 12:19 PM
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No and I'll say why. Second hand smoke studies aren't valid. Glantz is a chemical engineer who gave himself the title of cardiologist with no degree or tenure. Then he ran so called studies. The passive smoke studies are pure epidemiology without science. Carmona read it. Action for Smoking and Health, an anti tobacco advocate wrote that report. It's bias, phoney and only will make big pharm rich because they want you to get your nicotine from them. That is what is behind all bans.
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tigerangel
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10-11-2006, 7:24 AM
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This is not a Big deal..so u cant smoke in public places...Im a smoker and it does not bother me one bit....Im from St.Johns Newfoundland, Canada..and we had a smoking ban in place since 2000...and its not that big of a deal...at first businesses might suffer because of people who smoke are getting adjusted to the idea..but things will settle down..and everything will be ok...I dont even smoke in my home because I have 2 small kiddies and cigarette smoke sticks to everything making everything look yellow and dingy..so i could understand why non smokers would not want that around them when they eat..i dont even like people smoking when i eat..and i smoke!!...so its not all that bad to go outside for a cigarette.
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talltrees
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09-22-2006, 10:13 AM
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The conclusions one makes while throwing Red Herring darts stuffed with assumptions and gravy is quite telling. zivo, change your handle to zero if'n that's the best ya got.
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zivo24
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09-11-2006, 11:03 AM
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I do wonder how many people who are opposed to the smoking ban will support the amendment that will ban same-sex marriage in the state constitution?
You've railed against government intrusion into citizens exercising their right to make decisions for themselves.
The difference, of course, is that second hand smoke has been proven to be a cause of health problems (asthma, emphezcema, etc) in non smokers. After 2 years of gay marriage in Massachusetts, no straight marriages seem to have been negatively impacted.
I just think it will be interesting to see how many people's worries and moral indignancy about personal rights end at their end at the tip of their own noses.
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4tcollinsn
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09-08-2006, 12:59 PM
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It does not matter wheather you are a smoker or not a smoker, anyone who thinks this bill is a "good idea" is breathing something other than air,,,for the non smokers who think that just because they can go into any given establishment in this state and breath "clean air" are sadly mistaken! On any given day,in any given area of this state you can look outside and see that there is no such thing as clean air,, all you will see is a huge brown cloud that covers the entire front range and beyond, and I can tell you now with plenty of confidence that, that brown cloud is not caused by smokers alone!! Just because they banned smoking in any indoor facility does not mean the air you are breathing in those establishments is "clean air" there are things you breath in every second of every day that can cause diseases such as cancer that you can't see or smell and for the most part don't even know are there. So for you "overzelous, holier than thou, I am better than you thinkers out there. You all are cheering WHOOOOOOHOOOOOOO! and pointing fingers!!! you better stop for just a half a second and think, for every finger pointed there are 3 more pointing back at you!! and for all of you do gooders out there your day is coming, you are not perfect in anyway shape or form, every human has a vice of some sort, there is only one person in all of humanity that was perfect and certainly ISN'T YOU!!!!! I will be waiting with great anticipation for the day that government takes something away from you, and I along with many other people will be there not to point fingers but to say WE TOLD YOU SO!! and here is just an example of one thing that is being considered right now in the city of Aurora, a government official(unnamed) is pushing for a tax on all beverages that contain sweeteners, Now this tax may not have an impact on everyone, just like the smoking ban didn't have an impact on everyone but it will have an impact on the people of this community! The first line in the Constitution reads "We the People" not We the Government, and if we continue to let government rule on issues such as these and pass laws that take away the rights of the american citizens, Then we just need to grab our ankles now, because its not going to get any better.
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KST79
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09-07-2006, 10:37 AM
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pattyg...I never said that it did! Just missing your point behind shooting down someone elses comment with one even more ridiculous.
If they had to pick one of those two to put in the constition though you and I both know it would be the right to breathe clean air. Even smokers b*tch about pollution and poor air quality!
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pattyg
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09-06-2006, 5:31 PM
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KST79...Please show me where in the constitution you have the right to clean air????
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