Furthermore, you indicated in the past that you felt, not that others felt, but that you felt Culberson was not deceased. Given that it is believed that her body was disposed of by running it through a chipper machine, and that there are positive dna findings, and that there are many many other evidentiary facts that implicate, and in fact justify a conviction for Doan, he can whine all he wants, but he has already exhausted his appeals and has failed in every one. Soooo, once again, you are mistaken, because you chose not to verify your information before you spouted off.

Discussing things with you is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed man, all you can do is flap your lips together and spout off more vicipourous gobbledy gook with no basis in reality, and even less basis in fact. You should consider writing fiction, July, because the fantasy you've concocted for every issue you've addressed in these forums fails the litmus test of reality, and even more distressing, establishes you as a cavalier, racist, ignorant person without the ability to look beyond the color of your skin in the mirror.

Being colorblind is not just a disease, it's a lifestyle, but unfortunately, as Bill Cosby so recently pointed out, for blacks, in general, it's about the refusal to learn, the refusal to work, and the blatant disregard, by blacks, for the rights of others. If you want equal treatment, start treating people equaly, and move your people out of public housing, and off of welfare. Don't like that? Too bad, the truth is the truth, and it's about time it was told.

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Steffe'n

Once again, you try to twist my words into something they are not. I did not say OJ was guilty, I said IMHO, which is short for In my humble opinion...I think OJ is guilty. One is a statement of fact, IE. OJ IS GUILTY. One is an opinon. You do know the differnce, don't you?

Oh wait, it's you we're dealing with, the grass is blue because I said it was green person. DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH, or take my posts out of context, July, because you're neither bright enough to pull it off, or compelling enough to make it stick.

As to Vincent Doan, and Carrie Culberson; What part of my post did you not understand? There was enough blood found to determine that she was dead, since a person can not live without a certain amount of blood. Additonally, there was sufficient evidence to show that she had been dismembered, and that she was at one time in a pond, as well as on the property being searched. Ignoring these FACTS, July, is pretty typical behavior for you, but what is blatently obvious in your posts, is that little racist streak you claim you don't have.

Why look for a white girl?

Why do you think OJ is guilty?

Hmmm, let me think about this.... I think he's guilty because I listened intently to the trial proceedings, I watched the process completely, and I found that to my satisfaction, he was guilty. While I disagree with the findings of the jury in his case, I can't change them. I agree that he was found not guilty, but then again, it doesn't mean he isnt' guilty. A civil jury agreed, and found him responsible for the deaths of his wife and her friend. Golly, me and most of America think he did it... so what? In my humble opinion, based on the evidence presented at his trial, I think OJ Simpson got away with murder because a mostly black Jury would not convict one it's contemporary heros. That's my opinon, and I'm entitled to it, even if you don't like it.

As to the Culberson case, guess what, a white guy got nailed for killing a white girl, and chopping up her body, and that's the way it is. I think it's reasonble to search for her.

I'm reminded of a case in Dayton. The first time ever that a person was tried for murder without a body in Ohio. Seven months after the murderer was convicted, her body was found in a sewer system cistern. There was less evidence in that case, and yet the jury convicted her killer. When her body was discovered, the case came full circle, and the jury, which made a difficult decission was proven to be right.

Simply put, there was enough evidence to convict Doan, and that's the way it is. Deal with it, and stop twisting things I post into little convulsive hissy fits, because you've nothing better to do than to simply disagree with me for the sake of doing so. It only shows you to be childish and petulent, and certainly does not show you to be divergent, tolorant, or color blind, no matter how much you say otherwise.

Racism is racism, when are you going to actually address that?

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Steffe'n

There is absolutely no comparison to the OJ Simpson case, and for you to bring that up is pure folly. O.J. Simpson was, imho, as guilty as the day is long. Mr. Doan is guilty as well. A jury said so, and having read the public records, which I have encouraged you to do, I agree with the jury.

Carrie Culberson did not run away. She died. Her blood said so, and so did too many other pieces of forensic evidence. It is the responsibility of the State, which prosecuted the case, to exhaust any and every possibility to recover her body, much as it is the responsibility of the State to locate the murderer of your friend.

There are literally thousands of cold cases in this country, and the vast majority of them are reference the murders of young white women. That's a fact. Simply put, they're the most common murder victim, nationwide. My point is this; it does not, nor should it matter who the victim was, every effort to the point of impossibility should be exhausted not only to solve these murders, but to bring justice and closure to the victims families, irrespective of who, or where they are.

Your refusal to actually address the responsibilites of the Black Community when it comes to crime, and action, is once again obvious in your attempt to deflect the direct questions regarding the community in favor of dissing the search for a murder victim.

That is simply pathetic.

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Steffe'n

Secondly, they don't have to retry Mr. Doan, however, closure is a big deal. Perhaps you'd like it if we CLOSED the 50 year old murder of a 15 year old black in Alabama that the Justice department has reopened? Most of the principles are deceased, and the youngest remaining suspect is 79 years old with cancer. What's the point?

Answer: CLOSURE for the families involved. The same principle applies, and what you believe was scientifically proven to be impossible. Too much of Ms. Culberson's blood was recovered, (enough, they say, that it proved she had been drained of blood.) I highly doubt she was a constant donor.

No one is serving time based on a gut feeling. He, and his brother, are serving time based on many pieces of evidence that showed she was murdered, dismembered, and moved several times. Since the case has been heard, it is public record, maybe, with your myriad connections, you could actually know what you're talking about for once.

No gut feelings are involved. Doan was not convicted on a hunch, he was convicted by a jury of his peers based on all the evidence presented, not just a hunch that Ms. Culberson is deceased. The evidence convicted him, and that's the way the system works.

Taxpayers foot the bill for this search, and others that are fruitless. They also foot the bill to repair the damage the black community did the last time it rioted, and for incidents like Winton Terrace. They foot the bill for (statistically) 43 out of every 100 blacks in Hamilton County.

Hey, don't get ticked at the messenger, I didn't make the statistics, the Hamilton County Commission did.

Conversely, and I know you're gonna jump on it, they foot the bill for only 3.4 whites per 100, and 8.7 Hispanics and 'others'. By it's own admission the black community has fallen into a welfare status where nearly half of all blacks in this area live on the public dole. It's generational, and it pays to have more babies, thus, you have 25 year old mothers with six kids. Maybe the taxpayers should be upset about that...hmmm?

As for not looking at all sides, you must have yourself mistaken for me. I am not the one who REFUSES to admit an error, nor am I the one who twists words to mean whatever I want them to mean. I post facts in opposition to you, I look so far beyond the box that it's a circle, and I do not tolorate you posting bad information as facts. Get your facts straight, admit your mistakes, and I'll get off your back. But if you insist on painting a picture in four colors when the spectrum has millions of colors I'll be the first one to point out that you're still using a carbon copying machine when the rest of the world is using color lasers. In other words, if you don't like the fact that I kick you off the self made pedistal you like to perch on, either find a perch that doesn't include lies, salicious factoids, and outright fabrications, or, be prepared to deal with having the truth shoved down your throat with every post I write.

I explained why it's important. If you don't want to report the truth, I assure you, I will.

Deal with it, and be more honest, and then, I won't have to point out the places when your ignorance shines through. Or don't, either way, I'll not be silenced, especially, when I'm right. And I am.

That's your biggest problem with me, July, I am right, and you simply can not stand it.

Too bad. The truth hurts, and it can set you free, build a prison or build a spire, either way, get your facts straight before you try to influence someone who may not look as closely as I do, both inside the box, and out.

That's the only way to stop my rebuttals, and the only way you'll ever be on equal footing with me. Deal with it, instead of whinning about it.

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Steffe'n